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Old 10-01-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Bankrolling 17 year old kid

Background:

Kid turns 18 in a month. He has had some poker experience playing NLH in home games. Good Risk, Monopoly, Starcraft, and MTG player. Multiple judo and karate titles, and had done well in getting over major defeats early on as a fighter. IQ of 148. Top 10 percent in high school. Trained in Neurolinguistic Programming.

I want to bankroll him $1,000 on his 18th birthday under a few conditions.

Here are the conditions:

Read Theory of Poker, Poker and Emotions section of Inside the Poker Mind, HOH I and II before turning 18.

Once 18, give him a small bankroll with choice of games and limits under my strict supervision. He will play 100 1 table SNGs, 100 shorthanded SNGs, then play 500 heads up SNGs. Probably on Fulltilt.

After playing all of the above games, he'll read Poker Tournament Formula, Kill Phil, and Making the Final Table, maybe the Fulltilt tournament book as well.

Mission accomplished! He gets $1,000 bankroll from me no strings attached.

Please critique my conditions.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

Assuming it's serious...has your kid asked you for a $1,000 bankroll? Is this something he wants, or you want? Does he like to play HU SNGs?

And finally, am I the only one who notes the irony:
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He gets $1,000 bankroll from me no strings attached.

Please critique my conditions.


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(Hint: "conditions" is a synonym for "strings")
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

My concern is that the number of matches I have him play are inadequate.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

Ok,I will point out the obvious- SNG play is not the same as real poker. I think he would be better off playing 10K hands of .01/.02 ring games than low buy in SNG.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

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Ok,I will point out the obvious- SNG play is not the same as real poker. I think he would be better off playing 10K hands of .01/.02 ring games than low buy in SNG.

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Ok,I will point out the obvious- .01/.02 ring games are not the same as real poker. Give the kid a decent bankroll and let him play "real poker" at the Big Game at the Bellagio.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:09 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

If you are going to have him play SnGs, have him read Sit N Go by Colin Moshman (Great Read). Also you need to have him somehow develop a nonchalant attitude toward money (Your $1000) being used for poker.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

SNG's have such a low ceiling and are much harder to beat nowadays. Note: even years ago the ceiling they had was so much lower than cash games.

I'd completely rearrange and reorganize and have cash games be the focus. Here's some good reading:

http://www.pr0crast.com/2+2.NL.Anthology.v1.htm



And btw the # of games was inadequte.....at least when it comes to determining a winrate. When I played sng's 100 was 2 or 3 days. Now I play 4000+ hands of cash in a day. Nobody in STFF will start taking your results seriously until 500 sng's and 1000 is so much better but still not really that large a sample.


Edit: Oh just like to say...if you're still gonna have him play sng's which I think is silly have him read the STTF here, have him learn ICM, and have him get sng power tools or a similar program.

P.S.

Btw how can one be a good monopoly player?
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

I'd definitely swap the "Poker Tournament Formula" for "Sit 'n go Strategy" at this stage.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

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Btw how can one be a good monopoly player?

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Old 10-02-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Bankrolling 17 year old kid

A high IQ and the ability to play monopoly isn't enough to make you a good poker player.

Does the kid want to play or are you forcing him?
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