Updated Cliff Notes On Absolute Poker Scandal (18th October)

[PokerNewbie871]

The Inquirer has picked up the story

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-cheat-exposed

[BoughtMyPoints]

Billionaire Boys' Club redux.

Paradox Theory trumps Game Theory.

[bknollenberg]

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i think that the POTCHOPPER tourney info on UB is pretty bigtime stuff

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did i read it wrong, i thought he never cashed?

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exactly

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its late, your going to have to spell it out for me

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i think the idea is basically that if it is indeed the same guy, then the discrepancy across the two sites in playing ability and the position in which he finishes would suggest clearly that cheating was taking place.

like, if you have a ton of big first place finishes in tournaments on one site and none on the other and are, actually, finishing very early in all of them.. it's suspicious.

has anyone contacted UltimateBet with the possibility of getting HH's for PotChopper's tournaments / possibly seeing if they'll give out any information at all about said player? clearly it would violate confidentiality, but maybe there is a way to get some information that would not be revealing if the person is NOT POTRIPPER, like just what the last 3-6 numbers of their IP address is?

if it IS indeed the same guy, that's PRETTY damning evidence.

[bigshowmack]

Two things that were missed:

Brent Beckley's last known city of residence is Miami, which is the location of one of the cheater accounts. He was a frat brother of Scott Tom in Montana.

Oscar (can't remember his last name) = another one of Scott Tom's frat brothers, and was also employed by Absolute, as the CFO maybe?



Oscar

[bknollenberg]

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Anyone know AP's business entity name on the stock market? I'd like to look at their stock history over the recent month.

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i'd be curious too, in addition to a couple of the companies that run their security and such..

[Matfrid]

Two items from the phone conversation:

"Not all of the information posted on 2+2 is incorrect, but a lot of it is completely wrong."

"Some people are using this opportunity to spread misinformation and trying to hurt Absolute Poker. A lot of really untrue things are being said on purpose to make us look bad."

These claims have made me wonder. The evidence of cheating is repeatedly claimed to be convincing in these threads. Are these convictions based on belief that the reported Excel-file is genuine?

[aaronbeen]

You won't be able to find this information because AP is a private company.

[DonkeyKing]

I can definitely see a huge unload of stock in the company not just by investors but of executives in light of the news. Not to mention, this would be the premium time to short their stock.

[bigshowmack]

Are you seriously trying to insinuate that someone faked an entirely verifiable 10 MB 65k cell excel file which accurately recreated the entire tournament and had traceable email and ip addresses for all participants? If so then I am shocked at your stupidity.

[apefish]

Does anyone have the cities the accounts were known to be from?

I'm thinking specifically Graycat and Doubledrag at this point.