defending vs squeeze: options, options..

[Isura]

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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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But it still sucks with this hand in this spot

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How the hell is fold not an option?

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[cero_z]

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How the hell is fold not an option?

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jfish didn't give stats, but I think he's saying Villain's range looks like this:

Hand 0: 53.646% { ATs }
Hand 1: 46.354% {77+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, ATo+, KQo, QJo, JTo, T9o, 98o, 87o, 76o }

...or maybe somewhat different, but roughly 20% of hands, and there's 225 in there with 1000 back.

So just roughly, if Villain's squeezing range is ~20%, and then he calls with all hands beating or tying ATs, shoving makes $10 per try. If he folds more, calling only with TT+/AQo+/AQs+, shoving makes $50. Shoving seems better than folding, so folding is out.

[catcher193]

20% squeeze seems pretty redic even for the laggiest mofos

[d2themfi]

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How the hell is fold not an option?

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Taken from OP:

" if we take it for a given that i AM going to do something here, what is best? "

[Erik W]

Read it wrong.

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How the hell is fold not an option?

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jfish didn't give stats, but I think he's saying Villain's range looks like this:

Hand 0: 53.646% { ATs }
Hand 1: 46.354% {77+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, ATo+, KQo, QJo, JTo, T9o, 98o, 87o, 76o }

...or maybe somewhat different, but roughly 20% of hands, and there's 225 in there with 1000 back.

So just roughly, if Villain's squeezing range is ~20%, and then he calls with all hands beating or tying ATs, shoving makes $10 per try. If he folds more, calling only with TT+/AQo+/AQs+, shoving makes $50. Shoving seems better than folding, so folding is out.

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Range is way too wide

[bigt439]

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Haven't read thread. But I'd call and play poker.

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this is the best post in the thread, i think it'd be really awkward to call and play backgammon or bridge

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lol... when i read isura's post i just started thinking about how much i want to rip my eyes out when someone says "just play poker".

[catcher193]

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Haven't read thread. But I'd call and play poker.

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this is the best post in the thread, i think it'd be really awkward to call and play backgammon or bridge

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lol... when i read isura's post i just started thinking about how much i want to rip my eyes out when someone says "just play poker".

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lol so true,

but really, calling is way better IMO most squeezers practically CBET blind.

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Regarding if you shove here if you'll get zero respect:

Your just blind because your seeing the cards and thinking a level too low. Opp knows jfish isn't completely retarded and isn't going to shove here with nothing so opp is probably going to give him credit.