**Official uNL is this standard thread** - Page 5

Mr_Pathetic · #41 04-30-2007, 08:29 AM

Is this standard? I feel like this has been happening way too much this week. Everyday I for the last five days I have seen my opponents flop a flush. I felt sick calling but I figured I beat the two pairs and one pairs and only behind to pocket fours or a flopped flush due to preflop action.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $2.92
BB: $2
UTG: $4.80
CO: $2.85
Hero (BTN): $3.23

Preflop: Hero is dealt 2

2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.08) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.08, SB folds, BB raises to $0.16, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB raises all-in to $1.98, Hero calls $1.48

Turn: ($4.04) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($4.04) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $4.04 ($0.20 Rake)

BB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a flush, King high) and WON ( $1.84)
Hero had 2 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$2)

Chomp · #42 04-30-2007, 08:55 AM

I'd just 3b push flop to villain's rr, but generally getting it in here is standard and you were unlucky to run into the flopped flush. I'd also raise pf, although I don't know how these stakes play tbh.

Quester · #43 04-30-2007, 11:02 AM

Standard? I think so, but my nerves have been telling me otherwise. I think my c/r was too small, same with my turn bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($36.45)
Hero ($32.55)
BB ($5.95)
UTG ($22.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises to $1, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises to $6, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($14.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $9, Button calls $9.

River: ($32.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $16.55 (All-In), Button calls $16.55.

Final Pot: $65.35

PietM · #44 04-30-2007, 11:34 AM

Is this a standard fold on the river? Would a big Jack bet this big on the river?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
PietM: $50
UTG+1: $62.70
CO: $51
Button: $45.70
SB: $59.70
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) PietM is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
PietM raises to $2, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.75, 2 players)
PietM bets $3.5, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($11.75, 2 players)
PietM bets $8.5, UTG+1 calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($28.75, 2 players)
PietM checks, UTG+1 bets $24, PietM folds.
Uncalled bets: $24 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $28.75

MusashiStyle · #45 04-30-2007, 11:38 AM

for me this is a fold, unless u have a read that utg+1 is very donkish.

Chomp · #46 04-30-2007, 11:59 AM

Piet - I think a big J is by far the least likely possibility here once he bets. He's checkng a big J behind surely. Even air is a bigger part of his range than a big J IMO, along with boats and flushes.

Since the Big J/air are the only hands you are beating in his likely range of {Jx, Flush, Boat, Air} and the J/air are the least likely holdings, I think this is a fold. I should say though that at the table I will make a mistake here by calling an awful lot.

tisek · #47 04-30-2007, 12:05 PM

Is that a standart/good way to play AK ?
Was it too risky to keep on betting on this paired board ?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $0.80
BB: $0.94
UTG: $3.13
UTG+1: $6.76
MP1: $2.10
MP2: $5.07
CO: $3.22
Hero (BTN): $5.61

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG raises to $0.08, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.08, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, UTG raises to $0.32, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets $0.56, Hero raises all-in to $5.29, UTG calls all-in for $2.25
Uncalled bet of $2.48 returned to Hero

Turn: ($6.37) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($6.37) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $6.37 ($0.30 Rake)

UTG had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Eights) and LOST (-$3.13)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Eights) and WON (+$2.94)

Ikaika · #48 04-30-2007, 12:09 PM

I get away on the river in PietM's hand for sure. His bet is a weird size, he may have filled up on the turn and wants a big flush to shove over him. You aren't ahead of him enough to make a call profitable here, imo.

MrWooster · #49 04-30-2007, 01:11 PM

OK - want to know if this was ok. No way villain had an 8 - he was taking about 30s to decide each move. I put him on a low A - was this ok?

Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($2.80)
Button ($2.19)
SB ($5.01)
BB ($1.76)
Hero ($5)
MP ($8.71)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $0.1, 3 folds, SB calls $0.09, 1 fold.

Flop: ($0.22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.18, SB calls $0.18.

Turn: ($0.58) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.52, SB raises to $1.04, Hero raises to $4.72, SB calls $3.68.

River: ($10.02) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $10.02

Results in white below:
SB has Ks Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
Hero has As Qh (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: SB wins $10.02.

wildzer0 · #50 04-30-2007, 02:33 PM

[ QUOTE ]
OK - want to know if this was ok. No way villain had an 8 - he was taking about 30s to decide each move. I put him on a low A - was this ok?

Thanks

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO ($2.80)
Button ($2.19)
SB ($5.01)
BB ($1.76)
Hero ($5)
MP ($8.71)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

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I would call the turn bet - raising is pretty iffy.