A tricky flop with TT UTG

synth_floyd · #1 11-04-2007, 08:45 AM

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 3 folds, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, BB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (11.20 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero..???

--- The converter messed up and the Big blind was all in for .90 cents preflop. ---

I'm thinking here a call and then a check/fold on the turn if I don't get any help. Is that fairly standard? No real read on the raiser. Or is it worth check/calling through to the showdown if the turn and river are all under cards to my pair? There was also that third player all in preflop for almost 2 big bets. How should that affect my decision making?

kerowo · #2 11-04-2007, 10:46 AM

What have you seen CO 3-bet with pre-flop? How aggressive is he? Without reads you're probably better off folding this flop than trying to hit your 2 outer.

neurotiq · #3 11-04-2007, 11:40 AM

I'd just fold this one. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] A 3bet is usually TT/JJ/QQ/KK/AA/AK. Once the K falls, there's no hand that you beat inside that range.

Xylocain · #4 11-04-2007, 04:27 PM

:g:

I fold you just fell behind AK. If he bluffed you this time the gg him.

DarkMagus · #5 11-04-2007, 04:35 PM

I'd take one card off. Considering the times you hit your 2 outer, and the times he has AQ/99/something else and decides to check it down, I think it's worth 12:1. Fold to bet on turn though (unless you hit obviously).

kerowo · #6 11-04-2007, 06:13 PM

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I'd take one card off. Considering the times you hit your 2 outer, and the times he has AQ/99/something else and decides to check it down, I think it's worth 12:1. Fold to bet on turn though (unless you hit obviously).

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How often do you hit your 2 outer? How often do you see a show down for 1sb? You can peel one if you want, but it is -EV but you are probably better off telling yourself it's for meta-game purposes instead of it being at all math based.

ckj · #7 11-04-2007, 08:26 PM

I don't know how full ring is, but the same stats at 6-max, I've been capped by AQo before. At 6-max I think this is probably a call down, but at full ring I'm more inclined to fold.

Befolder · #8 11-04-2007, 09:27 PM

You've been 3 bet and then capped. The capper at least is likely to have a better hand than you PF and that K is a bag card on the flop in his other non PP capping hands. Fold the flop and move on.

Ghie · #9 11-04-2007, 10:24 PM

Fold the flop, the check told the villian that u didn't hit the flop. If I thought the Villian was loose and would 3 Cap some lesser holdings then i would have bet the flop, if he raised me I'd bail on the turn.

drzen · #10 11-05-2007, 01:15 AM

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I don't know how full ring is, but the same stats at 6-max, I've been capped by AQo before. At 6-max I think this is probably a call down, but at full ring I'm more inclined to fold.

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Calling down just in case he has one particular hand = very bad poker. Nearly everything is beating you. Time to fold.