NL $200 - Ugly spot on turn with KK

RAHZero · #1 11-13-2007, 06:44 PM

Villain is like 25/5/2, pretty average player (ie not very good but not an idiot). Just want a line check here, probably pretty standard.

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Ultimate Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($233.65)
MP ($357.10)
CO ($194)
Button ($174.20)
Hero ($306.70)
BB ($197)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, CO calls $10, Button folds.

Flop: ($28) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $25, CO calls $25.

Turn: ($78) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero ?

TJ Eckleburg12 · #2 11-13-2007, 06:47 PM

Hero bets enough to price himself in if he gets pushed on.

Then he calls and hopes the board pairs.

EDIT: And if we do get moved in, we have 2 or 3 more queen outs to split (probably) to go with our 10 boat outs.

SamuraiJon · #3 11-13-2007, 06:48 PM

check looks fine

Chaos_ult · #4 11-13-2007, 06:50 PM

How much of his range do you expect him to bet if you check to him on the turn?

I think that's what it all boils down to imo

Paul Thomson · #5 11-13-2007, 06:50 PM

bet-call.

Chaos_ult · #6 11-13-2007, 06:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
bet-call.

[/ QUOTE ]

and i agree

Paul Thomson · #7 11-13-2007, 06:51 PM

[ QUOTE ]
How much of his range do you expect him to bet if you check to him on the turn?

I think that's what it all boils down to imo

[/ QUOTE ]

most of hte part that bets...raises the flop right?

Chaos_ult · #8 11-13-2007, 06:55 PM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
How much of his range do you expect him to bet if you check to him on the turn?

I think that's what it all boils down to imo

[/ QUOTE ]

most of hte part that bets...raises the flop right?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, which is why bet/call is far superior here

RAHZero · #9 11-13-2007, 06:58 PM

[ QUOTE ]
How much of his range do you expect him to bet if you check to him on the turn?

I think that's what it all boils down to imo

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't expect him to bet without a Q, really. I bet $55 and called a shove, and thought it was standard, but looking back, is this really the best line? Check-calling and shoving if the board pairs has to be better, since a guy like this is never folding a straight, right?

bilbo-san · #10 11-13-2007, 07:57 PM

Bet-Call.

He could have 99/TT/JJ/JT/T9/KJ all of which call but won't bet if you check.