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Old 02-17-2007, 07:20 AM
Municipal Hare Municipal Hare is offline
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Default Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

29/20/1.6 villain; appears credible postflop.

The river felt like a decent value-betting opportunity until he turned the tables.

$3/$6
Preflop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>
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Old 02-17-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

It always sucks being on the wrong end of a WA/WB line.

If villain was bad I would be calling without thinking.
If villain is good, he either outplayed you with AQ, KQ or JJ. Or he is setting up a pretty darn good 3'rd level bluff.
I prolly call tho and make a note of it.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:32 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

I guess you could raise and hope he's bet-folding 99 or something . . .

I would probably just call, though.

A case could be made for folding, I'd imagine. I doubt you're best here. Still, 8.5 to 1 . . . I couldn't fold. A couple of worse pocket pairs are even available. And in this steal situation he could have A6s or something.
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Old 02-17-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

You are probably toast but he could have A6d or something like that.
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Old 02-17-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

In the action Id just call here
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Old 02-17-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

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If villain is good, he either outplayed you with AQ, KQ

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You mean outflopped and played bad?
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

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You mean outflopped and played bad?

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For some reason I though Hero was UTG.

Still, you dont play this WA/WB if you are villain? I usually do and suspect that I am missing value.
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Old 02-17-2007, 01:38 PM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

Call because his line doesnt make much sense and you have good odds.

If anything Id want to call for information here.
You get a lot of valuable stuff here.

how he reacts to your cap, if he didnt semi-bluff turn raise you with a draw, he plays WA/WB with a queen, can take random bluff river donks etc..
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Old 02-17-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

Part of me really, really wants to raise this. This looks like a standard WA/WB line with 88-JJ. If villain A) has one of these hands and B) is capable of bet-folding, you win. You need to be right about 25% of the time for this to work.

The other part of me says to fold. The only hand I see you beating is A6. But then again, getting 8.5:1, in the heat of battle I'd probably just call.

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Old 02-17-2007, 11:09 PM
Municipal Hare Municipal Hare is offline
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Default Re: Preflop overrep leads to funky river decision

It's good to see the spectrum of considerations represented here. His looked very much like a premeditated, call-seeking bet, so the other two options were duelling in my head.

The hesitation I showed and the money in the pot made me settle on the consensus line. Alas. Owned by jacks.
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