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Old 10-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Augster Augster is offline
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Default $5 Stars, is this a push?

I have just started using the Pushbot chart for bubble play etc. I think this is a push, but still, it's only A2os.

Is this a push by the chart? Or do I have a high enough M to not push it and wait for something a bit better, or is A2os just too weak to almost never push?

Also, what if I think the blinds will call a lot weaker than the "loose" numbers on the chart? I imagine you need to tighten up, but how much?

Anyway, any schooling will help as I run into this a lot....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB (t3115)
UTG (t5437)
Hero (t1700)
Button (t1518)
SB (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:25 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default Re: $5 Stars, is this a push?

Without checking SnGPT I'd say this is a pretty clear fold. You're not super desperate yet and A2o is a terrible hand.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:49 PM
hoyasnaxa hoyasnaxa is offline
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Default Re: $5 Stars, is this a push?

Fold. You still have plenty of time, and hands that call have you completely crushed, like any pair, or any ace.
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Old 10-08-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: $5 Stars, is this a push?

Fold - I think you need A6o or better with 8 BBs

Plenty of time in the game yet!
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Old 10-08-2007, 01:48 PM
sixfour sixfour is offline
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Default Re: $5 Stars, is this a push?

I'm shoving this from the button, but not from the CO
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:22 PM
Augster Augster is offline
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Default Re: $5 Stars, is this a push?

Thanks folks.

I have just been having trouble with the pushbot chart in that I can never "guess" which line to use.

I have an M of 5.6 and with 3 players behind, the "tight" column is 5.9, but the "average" is 4.4 and the "loose" is 4.3. If I deemed the players average or loose, it'd be a fold, if tight, it's a shove.

I guess, I'll just go with the majority from now on if I don't have an absolute read.

But I do agree that almost any call I am totally screwed.

Results in white if you care:

<font color="white">I pushed. BB called my all in with KTos and caught his 10 giving me 3 outs and knocked me out. So I was ahead, BUT, obviously KTos is even looser than the "loose" column making it a clear fold. </font>
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