Street by street analysis of a marginal hand

[winnnar]

I think you played this well PF with the 3-bet and the bet on the flop. However, When these kind of donks shove on top of us here after we've shown this much strength, it is seldomly a draw and he probably has us beat. You are getting a good price to call, but just know that you are very likely to be behind. I would probably fold here.

[winnnar]

Not to hijack your thread, but here is a hand I recently played that is a similar situation. Like you, I decided to call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($25)
UTG ($24.85)
Button ($16.75)
SB ($28.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K.
UTG raises to $1</font>, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $3, SB calls $3.

Flop: ($13) Q, 8, 2 (3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero bets $8</font>, Button raises to $12.75</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $4.75.

Turn: ($38.50) J (2 players)</font>

River: ($38.50) 5 (2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $38.50

[mickb70]

What am i missing? How are these hands similar?

[winnnar]

well OP's was HU. other than that...3 way pot...hero shows strength PF and fl. Donkish villain shoves and we are pretty priced in to call.

[Hebel]

*** FLOP *** [8c Qh 9c]
Hero bets $3
Villain raises to $10.45, and is all in
Hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero calls $7.45
Villain shows [6s 6h]
Hero shows [Tc Td]
*** TURN *** [8c Qh 9c] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [8c Qh 9c 5s] [4s]
Villain shows a pair of Sixes
Hero shows a pair of Tens
Hero wins the pot ($23.90) with a pair of Tens
Villain is sitting out

The point of this post was to show that people dont always have monsters. You have to seriously evaluate a villains hand over a wide possible range and not just say that "hes never bluffing with underpairs" or something along those lines.

[n4rf]

I really think it's *very tough to just put somebody on a hand like you did, an underpair. I honestly would not expect to be ahead when this is made. While you DO have 60% equity, this all changes when he pushes back at you.

I see this happening mainly with a pair and straight draw, like QJ, or even J9 (it's possible).

Vs 9/10 opponents I don't expect to necessarily have the best hand.


I think this hand was very results-oriented because I've done some similar plays and "good calls" if you like to call them that, but I just see myself as making a decent call and being lucky... if you were shown QJ or even Q10, I don't think you would be too surprised, since I know shortstacks love to push with top pair alllll the time.

[Hebel]

The entire point of this post was to show that this was not a results oriented call. After putting villain on a reasonable pushing range, most of which has me beat, I believe that I have demonstrated decent enough equity to make the call given the pot odds.