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Old 11-20-2007, 02:57 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default AJo OOP--multiple limpers

call, raise, or fold here?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $4.70
UTG: $1.82
MP: $12.07
CO: $12.05
BTN: $4.45
Hero (SB): $9.71

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN calls $0.05, Hero ...
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Im raising 0.3 here. And betting almost all flops with 2 villians in it.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Raise for sure. You don't want a scenario where you lead out a flop like J67 w/ two suits and one of the limpers reraises you. With the right board texture, you should be able to C-bet and take the pot if you miss as well.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Is it too nittish to want to fold here? You're OOP with an easily dominated hand that has little chance of hitting a monster. I just think there's too much of a chance that we'll get 3+ callers and that's a poor spot to be in even if we hit top pair.

Also if i'm going to raise here it'll be to ~0.45 to give the limpers poor odds to call.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:46 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

yes, too nittish to fold. raise it up.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Raise it up.

Be careful if MP comes along. Against UTG and/or Button I commit whenever I hit top pair because they are so short.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:49 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

I look at it this way, if you're a great oop post flop player with 2-3 callers, go ahead and raise. (5NL is full of calling stations who don't know how/when to fold, so I dont like this option)

If you want to play it safe and fold then this should be an acceptable option here. From experience, if you get 2 or 3 callers to a PFR, you will get a c-bet caller on ANY flop about 70% of the time. In other words, if you don't want to find yourself in a potentially marginal situation (especially since we will be OOP), a fold is more than fine.

I posted the thread to get some discussion going on this type of situation, because I think we run into it often and find ourselves in sticky post flop spots that we're not comfortable with.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

With these kind of hands in SB or BB with a couple of limpers i like to make a nice big raise 7,8 or 9x BB basically enough to fold everyone out, which is usually what happens.
If i get a caller im betting flop everytime to give him a chance to fold.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:13 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

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I look at it this way, if you're a great oop post flop player with 2-3 callers, go ahead and raise. (5NL is full of calling stations who don't know how/when to fold, so I dont like this option)



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WTF?

So villains in this hand are terrible and will limp call a raise with much worse with AJ.

They are also stations postflop and will stick around with hands that you crush when you hit the flop.

Conclusion = fold? This doesn't make any sense.

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If you want to play it safe and fold then this should be an acceptable option here. From experience, if you get 2 or 3 callers to a PFR, you will get a c-bet caller on ANY flop about 70% of the time. In other words, if you don't want to find yourself in a potentially marginal situation (especially since we will be OOP), a fold is more than fine.


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So don't c bet. Just put as much money in the pot with the best hand as you can. AJ is way ahead of their range preflop and you will get a bunch of flops in which they will pay you off.
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