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Old 11-25-2007, 12:24 PM
rh2020 rh2020 is offline
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Default NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

Villain is running at 28/6/1.

Is checking the flop here an option bearind in mind his reraise preflop? If not, how much do you lead out with?

I put him on QQ+/AK and given it's a dryish flop what are your thoughts?

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $31.45
UTG+1: $52.55
MP1: $15.75
MP2: $17.60
MP3: $9.75
CO: $66.20
Button: $9.80
SB: $18.99
BB: $21.15

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.35, 3 players)
Hero ?
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:45 PM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

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I put him on QQ+/AK

[/ QUOTE ] Why did you call preflop?

If you don't know what to do when you hit this flop you really should fold. I would fold teh prefloops. Now that we're here I think you can check/call the flop and lead the turn or check/call flop and check/fold the turn.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

ok so if its QQ+/AK then you shouldn't be calling OOP, I would c/r the flop big and then revauluate from there
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:54 PM
LearningCurve LearningCurve is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

Fold PF. You don't want to be playing this hand OOP and even worse in a 3-bet pot. This flop exemplifies why. We are behind AA, KK, and AK, which is most of what you see being 3-bet at this level.

Noting villain's AF I guess now I'd probably c/c flop c-bet but it's an easy fold if he fires again on the turn.

I remember someone saying once that we need to be careful not to head down dark alleys. Calling this 3-bet PF was defininitely taking us where we really didn't want to go. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:56 PM
Dennisa Dennisa is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

Fold preflop, they see your hole cards.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:58 PM
MrBump MrBump is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

I concur with the above - It is better to fold preflop and wait for a better spot IMO
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

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If you don't know what to do when you hit this flop you really should fold. I would fold teh prefloops. Now that we're here I think you can check/call the flop and lead the turn or check/call flop and check/fold the turn.

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Hero's stack is only 3x the pot here, and short of flopping a flush, it's about as favorable as we can expect. I think the decision to be made preflop was either to commit on a flop like this, or just fold preflop.

Given that we called preflop, I think we need to be willing to get it all in here. I prefer checking and calling the flop and turn since not many worse hands are calling but may bet when we check.

As an aside, calling pretty much any flop bet is going to leave us &lt; 1psb on the turn, so if we call the flop we're pretty much committed.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

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ok so if its QQ+/AK then you shouldn't be calling OOP, I would c/r the flop big and then revauluate from there

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Shooot, look again. The pot is already over $9.00 as there is more than one villain in there on the flop. Any raise is a shove.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:06 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

Pre-flop is fine. I say this a lot, but you guys are nits. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I would check/call flop.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:17 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 - AQs facing reraise

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I put him on QQ+/AK

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If this is true, then you have no business calling his reraise out of position with AQ suited or otherwise. You should fold.

As played, you need to find the least expensive way to see if your ace is good. I think you should fire $9 at the flop, fold to a raise, and c/f if he calls unless you pick up a diamond draw or Q on the turn-in which case you either CRAI on the turn, or just push.
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