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Old 08-06-2007, 09:10 AM
tdx tdx is offline
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Default QQ faces opposition from a nit

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($31.44)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($55.78)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($59.91)</font>
BB ($48.67)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($36.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $55.78 (All-In).

Final Pot: $92.28

<font color="blue">Reads: Villain is 8.5/5/oo over ~50 hands</font>

So, my question is - do I have enough information to fold this?
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Panic__NL Panic__NL is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

make it 2.50-3.00 to go preflop, you are OOP and have 2 villians acting behind you.
A player with those kind of stats is limp calling a pp like always here, or best case scenario a SC.
I would fold flop here, he has a set or 2 pair most of the time, so you are way behind.
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:55 AM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

Very easy flop fold against anyone who is not a total maniac. I need a very strong read to continue even with AA.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:11 AM
Sordini Sordini is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

$2 should be $3.
You PF call indicates you are pot committed. And the turn is fairly raggy. Yet thats not how you played the turn
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:10 AM
XHitman014 XHitman014 is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

I think it's closer than most people think...without a read, I'm still probably folding. Against a good player, I'm definitely behind his range. However, I don't think a lot of villians play sets this way on the flop/turn. AA/KK re-raises with someone left to act behind them so my range for villian looks like JJ/TT/99/77/66,T8s, &amp; some 2 pair type hands like 97s &amp; 76s with the range more heavily weighted towards JJ/TT. It looks like a fold but with a read like "cannot fold overpair" I'll make a call.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:17 AM
hunt1897 hunt1897 is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

Something wrong with converter. (Or the way you posted hand).
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:17 PM
tripdeuces tripdeuces is offline
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Default Re: QQ faces opposition from a nit

How you are ahead i don't know. A small sample but even at 50 hands you get some idea. He is firing hard and 3 betting. Looks like 66 or 77 or a flopped straight.
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