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#1
11-09-2007, 11:37 PM
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More Value to be had here? FTOPS Event 3
FTOPS Event 3
Full Tilt Poker Pot Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $50/$100 9 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $11315 UTG+1: $8730 MP1: $3845 MP2: $3042 MP3: $10800 CO: $7710 Button: $2366 Hero: $6600 BB: $6375 Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with Js 5s 4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, BB checks. Flop: Ks Jh 2s ($300, 3 players) Hero bets $200, BB folds, MP3 calls. Turn: As ($700, 2 players) Hero checks, MP3 bets $700, Hero raises to $2000, MP3 calls. River: 9c ($4700, 2 players) Hero bets $2350, MP3 calls. Results: Final pot: $9400 The Villian has a post flop aggression of 8.5, thus the check on the turn. 
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#4
11-09-2007, 11:56 PM
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Re: More Value to be had here?
I think i just lead the turn. I see villain checking back on this card a fair bit and if it does hit him you'll get more money/deception when he raises your bet than when you CR his bet.
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#6
11-10-2007, 01:17 AM
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Re: More Value to be had here?
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is this the real bondgurllll?!?!?!?! [/ QUOTE ] I've convinced her to start posting since she's playing the ME in Macau and i can't always answer while 8 tabling.
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#7
11-10-2007, 01:22 AM
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Re: More Value to be had here?
id play the same pretty often and id shove river
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#8
11-10-2007, 01:37 AM
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Re: More Value to be had here?
And the fact i don't always agree with what Bond has to say. He is correct with the textbook poker, but when other things needs to be taken into account, i like to gather other opinions. Otherwise we sit there arguing.
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#9
11-10-2007, 02:04 AM
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Re: More Value to be had here?
pot the flop - it seems like a small thing but if you bet-threebet you're going to want the 3bet to be as big as possible, and if you get called you are rarely going to be in a situation where you want a smaller pot size (all options on a blank turn are the same whether it's 700 or 900 and getting to the river with unimproved you don't care about facing a bigger bet b/c you're folding) whereas when you hit you want a bigger pot. The other way to think about this is that if he has a K he should want you to make the smaller bet.
The thing about c-r the turn is that he has very few betting hands that can call the c-r. With the ace, king, and jack of spades accounted for it's unlikely he has top pair or a good draw, KQ w/ Q of spades is the top of his range unless he slowplayed a set or has QT in which case he's probably raising for value if you bet. So even if he bluffs you just get the one bet. But if you bet 70%ish pot he may talk himself into bluff raising, plus he is likely to call down with a lot of stuff he would check behind on the turn (him checking KQ or QJ w/ Q spades behind is not good. As played his turn call means he likes his hand or he has the Q of spades; maybe AJ/QT or a slowplayed (lol) KJ or 222? Regardless he's calling 3300 as often as 2350. I'd probably not full pot it in case he wants to talk himself into calling with a K. edit: it look like you have ~4k left for the river (?); in that case i'd just shove.
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