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Old 10-17-2006, 03:34 AM
pig4bill pig4bill is offline
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Default At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

At the tables I play, any raised pot pre-flop will usually have a good 8 to 10 small bets in it before it comes around to me in the BB. Are there any two cards I wouldn't call one small bet with if I'm reasonably sure it won't be raised again after I call?
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

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Getting 8 or 10 to 1 I would play any hand. I might even play a 9 or better if that was my only card
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

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I might even play a 9 or better if that was my only card

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I hate the hands I only get dealt one card, I ususally just fold, even if it's a K or even A. Is this a mistake?
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Old 10-17-2006, 05:44 AM
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Getting 8 or 10 to 1 I would play any hand. I might even play a 9 or better if that was my only card

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I'm reasonably certain this is bad.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

Dude and Justin,

With just one card you can always just play the board for your kicker. I'm not sure but I think that's a pretty good strategy. Don't forget the metagame effect when you own someone with only half the cards.
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Old 10-18-2006, 10:03 AM
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Don't forget the metagame effect when you own someone with only half the cards.

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Well, regardless of the number of cards you get dealt, people seem to go on tilt when they lose you go, Patrick. I don't know if there's anything you can do to avoid it even if you wanted to, because when I was 8 and played in my dad's regular game, I used to get the same reaction. I used to try to explain to them that of course they lose to me, I'm just more experienced and smarter, but that didn't help at all.

Anyway, just get used to people hating you for what you are - a damn fine poker player.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:58 AM
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Getting 8 or 10 to 1 I would play any hand. I might even play a 9 or better if that was my only card

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This is bad, your money odds are better, but your winning odds are now worse due to all of the extra hands in play. Also don't forget that you'll be out of position. You should definitely open up, but not to the point where you're playing any 2.
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Old 10-18-2006, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

Then my original question remains - at what point would you fold? 10-2? 8-4o? 5-2o?
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: At what point do you not call from the BB pre-flop?

10-2 has to be below rock bottom. What do you do with a 10-9-4 flop? Waste a few chips before you muck, is what you do. There is no good way to play this hand out of position post flop, unless you flop a monster. This forum needs someone to say it-save some chips for later!
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Old 10-18-2006, 02:54 AM
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Right, you check-muck that flop. The point to calling one small bet pre-flop is the hope of a monster flop, not a mediocre one.
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