To the Multi-Accounters : some thoughts before this upcoming Sunday

[Mama Poker]

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IMO, the shady [censored] in online poker will never end. Sheets/bax/timex staking infinite idiots is no different than multiaccounting.

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No offense to bax/sheets, but I'm pretty sure that many, if not most of the people we stake are better than we are.

I'm trying to think of the last time I tried helping someone I back who went deep in an MTT, the convo went something like this:

"mind sharing hands, Dan"
"no, you [censored] suck, I'm blocking you until I win this thing"
rinse and repeat

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My respect for KingDan has increased 100 fold!

I can not comprehend how you guys can think that AIM during any tourney or in person help is not an unfair advantage, even if it is not "against the rules".

[ClassicBob]

This thread is pretty self-masturbatory until names come out. Until then, it's just "look, I'm good, because I don't do this...but other people do!!!!"

[NateAvenson]

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here's a simple test:

imagine the stuff that happens online that comes up in threads like this-- some of which is taken for granted, some of which is shunned, some of which many people are unaware of, etc. take whatever action you're in doubt about, and put it in a live tournament setting. if your response to "should this be allowed?" is "lol, no, that's obviously ridiculous," it should probably stand the same for online.

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I think this test is a little to simple to work. For example, is it ok to play in the nude? Online is different from live. Each has its own pros and cons. More hands per hour online, and physical reads live. How about playing two tournaments at the same time? Obviously ok onlive, but live? I think a better simple test is to ask yourself "Is what I am about to do the right thing to do? What would my mom think? What would my friends/peers think?"

[augie_]

screw this thread, i wanna see some names

[McMelchior]

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screw this thread, i wanna see some names

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[RutgersKev]

Sebok is quoted as having received advice from Barry G. during the final table of the WCOOP.

Too lazy to look for the quote, but I believe it was on the Pokerstars Blog!!!

Edit: I found it:

When I reached 90,000 in chips my dad came in and decided to sit down and watch me play. This was about six hours into the tournament. Now I can't deny that it certainly isn't bad to be able to have Barry Greenstein come in and take a seat next you, counseling you through the later stages of such a big tournament. Let me assuage your fears though, as he did not actually play for me, as you may think. We would occasionally talk through hands when things got a little dicey though.

At any rate, our partnership became one with the feel of student driver/instructor. Every time I was driving fine and parallel parking like a pro, we would have a conversation like this:

"Joey, you really need to raise in here again."

"But Bear, I have a 9-4 off. Come on, you are being ridiculous."

"I'm telling you, these guys are so scared of you that you should be raising every hand. If they refuse to stop you, then you shouldn't stop yourself."

http://www.pokerstarsblog.com/2005/0...ok-speaks.html

[A_Junglen]

This thread is a nice reminder of why I don't post on 2p2 as often s I used to.

[Donkey-Milker]

it is not ok to talk on aim/phone/in real life to other players about the hand while in the hand.

how can you think it is ok? most of you do it. just play by yourselves ffs.

the only thing your friends should be saying are stuff like "you can do it man!". talking about a hand being played with you in it is immoral.

how can no-one see this?

[McMelchior]

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it is not ok to talk on aim/phone/in real life to other players about the hand while in the hand.

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You're entitled to your opinion, but if you cared to read the thread ( [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]) you'd know that at least Stars' management agrees there's no "one hand one player" rule. Notice that poker is always played according to the house rules.

This thread is not about "hand advice" or shades of un-ethical behaviour.

It's about cheating players bragging about their blatant, undeniable cheating. And how the community needs to respond to that.

[0evg0]

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it is not ok to talk on aim/phone/in real life to other players about the hand while in the hand.

how can you think it is ok?

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Because Lee Jones has come on this board and told us it's okay.

That's a pretty good reason to have that notion I think.