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Old 07-29-2007, 02:28 AM
owsley owsley is offline
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This doesn't really bother me that much, since I'm not a criminal, what's the big deal? This should only make you scared if you are doing something wrong.

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So you wouldn't mind me searching your house, personal items, bank statements, computer files, medical records, etc, right?

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Well if that does ever happen, it would most likely be done without me finding out, so that is kind of moot, I wouldn't have the opportunity to be bothered. Having these searches done without people finding out is actually a much better way of organizing this kind of thing, because that way it works as a bonus deterrent in addition to all the real criminals it will catch. If I know my house might be searched in the next couple months, I'd have to be pretty stupid to leave it there. Thus, I don't break the law and buy pot. That is an abstract example, but the theory works in that people are not going to break the law if they know they are going to get caught. So this is going to make me a lot safer, since it's going to both catch criminals and deter new ones. Honestly how does that not make sense?

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Time for the cliches about freedom and liberty to be dragged out once again.

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Seriously. My idea of freedom is being able to live in safety, non some privacy/freedom of speech bullcrap. That stuff is so backward.
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Old 07-29-2007, 03:22 AM
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This doesn't really bother me that much, since I'm not a criminal, what's the big deal? This should only make you scared if you are doing something wrong.

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So you wouldn't mind me searching your house, personal items, bank statements, computer files, medical records, etc, right?

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Well if that does ever happen, it would most likely be done without me finding out, so that is kind of moot, I wouldn't have the opportunity to be bothered. Having these searches done without people finding out is actually a much better way of organizing this kind of thing, because that way it works as a bonus deterrent in addition to all the real criminals it will catch. If I know my house might be searched in the next couple months, I'd have to be pretty stupid to leave it there. Thus, I don't break the law and buy pot. That is an abstract example, but the theory works in that people are not going to break the law if they know they are going to get caught. So this is going to make me a lot safer, since it's going to both catch criminals and deter new ones. Honestly how does that not make sense?

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Time for the cliches about freedom and liberty to be dragged out once again.

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Seriously. My idea of freedom is being able to live in safety, non some privacy/freedom of speech bullcrap. That stuff is so backward.

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You mean you wouldnt be happy having the freedom to convert to Islam or pay a jizya? Its freedom of choice after all.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:04 AM
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And I thought you were talking about these guys.

http://www.reportcabletheft.com/

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you think it's a joke, it's been in the papers that a lot of guys like meter readers and cable installers were ad hoc (commission) informants for the authorities to spy on people. Now I guess it will just be more structured, these guys will just get a second paycheck for 'reporting suspicious activity'.

ENJOY!

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You're starting to sound suspiciously like one of those types that don't like freedom. I may have to report you.
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:27 AM
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You guys understand owsley is levelling everyone, right?
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:37 AM
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You guys understand owsley is levelling everyone, right?

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and ironically, its about time he posted something that is correct
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Old 07-29-2007, 07:41 AM
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You guys understand owsley is levelling everyone, right?

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Old 07-29-2007, 07:43 AM
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...oposes-bu.html

I feel safer. I can't wait until homland youth makes its debut. I'm busy right now making a list of people I hate that I can turn in for harassment.

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Fascism update for United States:

[x] FBI wants its own Stasi
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Old 07-29-2007, 01:38 PM
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You guys understand owsley is levelling everyone, right?

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and ironically, its about time he posted something that is correct

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How on earth can you trust that the government is going to use this power responsibly?
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:36 PM
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You guys understand owsley is levelling everyone, right?

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and ironically, its about time he posted something that is correct

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How on earth can you trust that the government is going to use this power responsibly?

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Historically, governments act in the interests of its people...right after bloody revolts.
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Old 07-29-2007, 09:42 PM
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Personally, I embrace things like this, its going to hopefully speed up the process of revolution.
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