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Old 10-30-2007, 07:37 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn



UTG runs at 25/0/0.25 - 20
SB runs at 18/10.8/1.29 - 120


Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $24.40
CO: $26.85
BTN: $27.35
SB: $26.55
Hero (BB): $51.60
UTG: $25.55

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1, MP folds, SB calls $1

Turn: ($4) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $13</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $25.30 and is All-In</font>, Hero....
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

Two pair so seldom good here against two players going over the top of your bet imo.
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

hmmm....I think this looks like a fold to me. What would they be pushing here? A higher ace doesn't really make sense. I think a lot of times here your going to see a set or a straight. You don't really beat their range here because they are both telling you that the seven really helped them and I'm guessing it helped them more then it helped you.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:17 PM
doppelganger doppelganger is offline
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

I guess it's a fold. Flop was fairly dry so someone could've been slowplaying a set, and I guess SB could complete PF w/ 58 if he was in a mood. The only hands you're beating that might play this way would be a super aggressive A5 or a flush draw and they have plenty of equity against you. (And are unlikely, and it's extremely unlikely that both of them have hands you beat.)
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

I fourth the fold. Villains are the opposite of aggro, they both check/called to the turn, and there's two of them. I'd call this HU but I wouldn't be all that happy about it.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

The worst hand I call with here is bottom set and I'm not expecting to be ahead all that often even with that.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

I ended up folding but wanted to make sure that is the consensus. Luckily it is the overwhelming consensus.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: top two pair facing lots of aggression on turn

I've never once advocated folding bottom set before, but if there was a spot to do it this is it. You're in a limped pot with two villains that both check/called flop and went crazy on the turn. You see one higher set or a straight probably more often than both villains having aces up.
(That said, I still probably call with a set of 4s here and then go whine, er, ask about it here)
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