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Old 10-06-2007, 07:17 PM
Fletcher19 Fletcher19 is offline
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Default NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

Playing a mix of 2/4 and 1/2 today when this little gem came up. The PFR was a standard nit running 16/13 and the other guy seemed pretty donkish pf but nothing out of line postflop.

The flop raise was meant to be larger but i was engrossed in another big pot on another table and only just managed to act in time.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $197
CO: $200
Hero (BTN): $356.90
SB: $362.95
BB: $613.95
UTG: $207

CO posts $2
Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $9</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $9, SB folds, BB calls $7

Flop: ($30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $24</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $138</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">Hero ???</font>

if i shove it's another 200 to BB
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

plz explain why youd wanna shove
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

I think you're [censored] here. Fold.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

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I think you're [censored] here. Fold.

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Old 10-06-2007, 07:28 PM
VaioVik VaioVik is offline
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

villain has 55,66,87ss for sure, you're getting ~3 to 1 on the call and you're about 4 to 1 to make the flush on the turn..Since you have 200 behind i think you should call the raise and fold to a shove on the turn.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

what? push


18,810 games 0.005 secs 3,762,000 games/sec

Board: Qd 5s 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.135% 46.88% 00.26% 8818 48.00 { QsTs }
Hand 1: 52.865% 52.61% 00.26% 9896 48.00 { 66-55, AsKs, AcQc, AdQd, AhQh, 87s, AcQd, AcQh, AdQc, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh }
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

In regards to peeling flop, it's a math question.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:55 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

Your flop raise is gay make a real raise or call (which is optimal imo).
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:46 AM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

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what? push


18,810 games 0.005 secs 3,762,000 games/sec

Board: Qd 5s 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.135% 46.88% 00.26% 8818 48.00 { QsTs }
Hand 1: 52.865% 52.61% 00.26% 9896 48.00 { 66-55, AsKs, AcQc, AdQd, AhQh, 87s, AcQd, AcQh, AdQc, AdQh, AhQc, AhQd, AsQc, AsQd, AsQh }

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A 16/13 is probably not going crazy w/ AQ here and probably 3-betting AKs pf and is not going crazy even with that on this flop 100% of the time.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:06 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: NL200 TP and flush draw MW DEEP

its not the 19/16 3b guys

any specific reads on the guy? His line is ridiculously strong, on this board i think its ok to get it in. if the 6 was a 3 this is a fold.
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