200/400 Live. Nut Flush

amulet · #1 04-12-2006, 07:59 PM

200/400 Live

Tight aggressive game with good players. In an unusual hand it was fold to me on the button with Ah9h. I raise, expert in sb calls, good player in BB calls.

Flop Kh,2d,5H.

SB leads, BB makes it 2 bets, I 3 bet, both call.
(clear to me and I think everone that SB had a smaller flush draw).

Turn Qc

both check, I check.

River Qh.

SB leads, BB raises, I.........

I believe that BB would not reraise unless he could beat a flush.

What do I do? I know what I did, but results aside, I would love feed back on all streets, especially the river.

ggbman · #2 04-12-2006, 08:02 PM

I don't know about the flop 3 bet. Someone is seeing showdown with you, i think the chance to actually pop a big street when you make a flush is more valuable than pumping this now. As played, the river seems like a very straightforward call, i don't see what else you would do.

bobbyi · #3 04-12-2006, 08:05 PM

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I raise, expert in sb calls, good player in BB calls...(clear to me and I think everone that SB had a smaller flush draw).

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I'm having trouble understanding how someone can be an expert and yet essentially have his hand faceup on the table to everyone based on his flop action.

amulet · #4 04-12-2006, 08:13 PM

good point, but he is a great player.

limon · #5 04-12-2006, 09:49 PM

in limit sometimes you (an expert) just turn your hand faceup because the pot is too big for subtrifuge (there is going to be a showdown you cant win unless you hit and the pot is big enuf you arent folding). the flop 3 bet is only good if you KNOW you wont get 4 bet and wont get bet into on the turn when you miss....therefor its not a good 3 bet because these standards are not met.

steveyz · #6 04-12-2006, 09:58 PM

I call. Pray for Jh Th from BB?

amulet · #7 04-12-2006, 10:02 PM

i think it is closer to a fold then a 3 bet. as i mention i can't see this player reraising unless he can beat a flush.

amulet · #8 04-12-2006, 10:18 PM

by 3 betting i might be seeing the river for free if i choose to. since i am calling 2 bets might as well make it 3 and try for a free card if i want.

on the river, i think i can call, or can fold, my read is that he would never reraise unless he can beat a flush.

J.A.Sucker · #9 04-13-2006, 12:12 AM

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i think it is closer to a fold then a 3 bet. as i mention i can't see this player reraising unless he can beat a flush.

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No way is your hand anywhere close to a fold. Calling might be right if the other player will overcall, but raising might be good, too.

J.A.Sucker · #10 04-13-2006, 12:15 AM

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I don't know about the flop 3 bet. Someone is seeing showdown with you, i think the chance to actually pop a big street when you make a flush is more valuable than pumping this now. As played, the river seems like a very straightforward call, i don't see what else you would do.

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Either course of action is good to do, and this is a great spot to get some big action in where, unless you are up against AK or a set, you are in great shape. Even if you are against either hand, you are only giving up "pennies." I always tend to play big pots, though, when I have position and a good hand, but it's a matter of style.