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Old 09-11-2007, 02:26 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

16 PFR is raising hands like JTs/QJs/KJs,KJo/ATs/A9s/medium pairs. All of these will put in a decent amount of money when we hit, and we can float a decent AMT vs this guy (which is why position is so nice). Also preflop equity doesnt matter all that much for calling a single raise (for ex. villain shows you AA and raises 4X 100BBs deep you are obv calling 22-KK even though your equity sucks). Quantifying the exact value of position is impossible b/c it depends so much on the players involved in the hand, but i think its worth enough to make up for a 57.5/42.5 preflop equity hit.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:26 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

it's worth plenty if utg's the type to raise all pp's preflop - many flops are going to scare those holdings, and you'll often be able to take the pot down with position.

otherwise, just fold. aj has rio written all over it against most standard utg ranges.

as played i'd probably muck flop.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:27 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

16 pfr (UTG) is raising all those hands? Really?
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:28 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

futuredoc, calling AJo against a UTG raise is a total RIO situation and really bad at this level imo. Not just marginally bad, but really bad.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

Thanks for responses
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

Shoving river with 4 hearts on the board when you like never have a big heart yourself and he obviously has something that isn't scared of the flush/flush draw seems pretty spewy.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 50 NL, AJ, I\'m playing with multi-barreling with poor results ;-]

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16 PFR is raising hands like JTs/QJs/KJs,KJo/ATs/A9s/medium pairs. All of these will put in a decent amount of money when we hit, and we can float a decent AMT vs this guy (which is why position is so nice). Also preflop equity doesnt matter all that much for calling a single raise (for ex. villain shows you AA and raises 4X 100BBs deep you are obv calling 22-KK even though your equity sucks). Quantifying the exact value of position is impossible b/c it depends so much on the players involved in the hand, but i think its worth enough to make up for a 57.5/42.5 preflop equity hit.

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This post convinced me. Only problem is that I havenīt done this much at all, so I will probably spew all over the place at first. But maybe I am not too old to learn.

Op,
fold the flop. This is such a standard bluffing board. This is why raising this flop if you actually have a T is such a good move.
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