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Old 05-19-2007, 10:05 AM
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Pardon me for including poker in a post on the politics forum.

I made my first visit to Foxwoods this past week playing only $1-2 NL. The structure of the dealer's compensation is shared tips for all, all shifts, all abilities, all limits. From each according to his abilities 100%. I have 12 years of casino poker experience and I can unreservedly state that the dealers I saw at Foxwood were collectively among the very worst. Slow and often less than friendly was the rule. Incompetent was common. When the monetary motivation for personal high performance is removed service is usually awful.

Upon investigation, I believe that the best dealers are assigned to higher limit rake games and the worst are sent to deal time games such as mine. Also the better dealers take graveyard shifts, which pay the same and are often less busy.

Next - Cuban health care.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:30 AM
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Pardon me for including poker in a post on the politics forum.

I made my first visit to Foxwoods this past week playing only $1-2 NL. The structure of the dealer's compensation is shared tips for all, all shifts, all abilities, all limits. From each according to his abilities 100%. I have 12 years of casino poker experience and I can unreservedly state that the dealers I saw at Foxwood were collectively among the very worst. Slow and often less than friendly was the rule. Incompetent was common. When the monetary motivation for personal high performance is removed service is usually awful.

Upon investigation, I believe that the best dealers are assigned to higher limit rake games and the worst are sent to deal time games such as mine. Also the better dealers take graveyard shifts, which pay the same and are often less busy.

Next - Cuban health care.

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I agree with your overall point (people normally don't work as hard for a collective)--but it's a business, not a state. And judging that Foxwoods is one of the very few casinos that could be called a household name, I'm sure their big managerial decisions, such as the distribution of money among its staff, aren't too misguided. But as always, I could be wrong.

And lastly, slippery slope arguments are usually fallacious on their face, but going from the business practices of a casino to Cuban health care is like a slip 'n slide down Kilamanjaro.
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Old 05-19-2007, 12:14 PM
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Since Foxwoods enjoys near-monopoly status there is no doubt that this dealer structure is very highly profitable. It wouldn't survive the competetive pressure of a free market.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:08 PM
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I agree with your overall point (people normally don't work as hard for a collective)--but it's a business, not a state. And judging that Foxwoods is one of the very few casinos that could be called a household name, I'm sure their big managerial decisions, such as the distribution of money among its staff, aren't too misguided. But as always, I could be wrong.

And lastly, slippery slope arguments are usually fallacious on their face, but going from the business practices of a casino to Cuban health care is like a slip 'n slide down Kilamanjaro.

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I think he was just making a comparison. The result of collectivism at FoxWoods is analogous to the result of socialised medicine or other Marxist ideas in government.
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Old 05-19-2007, 02:47 PM
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The Dreadful, Dreary, Boring World of Commie Casinos
http://www.mises.org/story/1961
(Canada socialized casinos vs American private)


Also: you mentioned Foxwoods has some special 'monopolized' place in the market. Can you elaborate?
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:03 PM
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Also: you mentioned Foxwoods has some special 'monopolized' place in the market. Can you elaborate?

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Foxwoods has the only poker room in New England. No one else is allowed to open a competing room even if they have the resources and desire to do so. That sounds like a monopoly to me.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:25 PM
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I loathe shared tips.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:26 PM
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Also: you mentioned Foxwoods has some special 'monopolized' place in the market. Can you elaborate?

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Foxwoods has the only poker room in New England. No one else is allowed to open a competing room even if they have the resources and desire to do so. That sounds like a monopoly to me.

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lol scammaments
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:30 PM
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Also: you mentioned Foxwoods has some special 'monopolized' place in the market. Can you elaborate?

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Foxwoods has the only poker room in New England. No one else is allowed to open a competing room even if they have the resources and desire to do so. That sounds like a monopoly to me.

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lol scammaments

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To elaborate further, gambling is illegal in all the states near Foxwoods. Foxwoods is on an Indian Reservation, so they have a special exemption.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:01 AM
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Pardon me for including poker in a post on the politics forum.

I made my first visit to Foxwoods this past week playing only $1-2 NL. The structure of the dealer's compensation is shared tips for all, all shifts, all abilities, all limits. From each according to his abilities 100%. I have 12 years of casino poker experience and I can unreservedly state that the dealers I saw at Foxwood were collectively among the very worst. Slow and often less than friendly was the rule. Incompetent was common. When the monetary motivation for personal high performance is removed service is usually awful.

Upon investigation, I believe that the best dealers are assigned to higher limit rake games and the worst are sent to deal time games such as mine. Also the better dealers take graveyard shifts, which pay the same and are often less busy.

Next - Cuban health care.

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All i know is i read the reviews of my fellow americans on hotels, bars, restaurants, etc on the internet and i often find a bunch of whiners who have insanely unrealistic expectations of what a hotel, waitress, etc are supposed to be or do. So unless you can provide some kind of example better than "slow" or "unfriendly" its hard for an outsider who has never been to to Foxwoods to make a judgment.

Slow compared to who?

Unfriendly... are you from the NE? People from the south tend to think everyone from the northeast are unfriendly...

and nice tenuous link to communism... totally on topic
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