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Old 11-18-2007, 11:57 PM
shipitkthx shipitkthx is offline
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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I play at crown and i've asked about this, ONLY people participating in the hand are allowed to ask to see the mucked cards at showdown

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I've seen this variation of the rule before and personally I think its retarded as it takes away the true purpose of the rule. If I actually suspect 2 people of colluding I shouldn't have to stay in the pot just so I can prove it at the end.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

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Old 11-19-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

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I think most of us know that its not why they are doing it. But we are pissed off they are asking in the first place so we get defensive and use this line as a way of pointing out to them that if they don't think we are cheating they shouldn't be asking.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

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Frankly, I do have a "clue whatsoever" my point is that this is generally considered to be extremely poor etiquette - particularly among the more experienced Live players
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

I've only run into this once playing live and I'm fairly sure the goof that did it couldn't comprehend or use any information he gained about my play of one hand.

Rather than get annoyed about it, why not comply, make a mental note that this guy is probably watching you for tells and he may be willing to make decisions based on what he thinks he knows because of said tells. Use this to your advantage; profit. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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I've only run into this once playing live and I'm fairly sure the goof that did it couldn't comprehend or use any information he gained about my play of one hand.

Rather than get annoyed about it, why not comply, make a mental note that this guy is probably watching you for tells and he may be willing to make decisions based on what he thinks he knows because of said tells. Use this to your advantage; profit. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Clearly this is the pragmatic approach and what I ultimately do in 99% of all potential "Tilt" inducing situations. Pragmatic cool heads will more often lead to winning Poker.

...now for that pesky final 1%
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Old 11-19-2007, 01:59 AM
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I usually try to just muck them forcefully when some assclown does this, and they usually don't say anything.It's always some pervert WWII vet who does this, and they're so old that nobody takes them seriously anyway.

If the dealer does successfully turn my cards over, I ask to see the hand every time until they left the table.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:54 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

b

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I think most of us know that its not why they are doing it. But we are pissed off they are asking in the first place so we get defensive and use this line as a way of pointing out to them that if they don't think we are cheating they shouldn't be asking.

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I think it's an absolute waste of energy to even get pissed off about it.

Much better things to worry about when on the table.

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Old 11-19-2007, 03:55 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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To invoke the rule is to imply cheating.

I react kind of funny when accused of being a cheater.


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Of course if you have any clue whatsoever, you realize, if you've been in a cardroom for any decent length of time, that this isn't what they're implying at all. It's what you're projecting on them that that's their intention.

Why not look at the actual reasons behind their actions before making claims on their actual intent. You might find it's as far from accusing you of anything that it can be.

b

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Frankly, I do have a "clue whatsoever" my point is that this is generally considered to be extremely poor etiquette - particularly among the more experienced Live players

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There's alot worse poor 'etiquette' at the table to worry about than this.

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Old 11-19-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: Retard asks me to see my mucked hand after i loose...Crown Casino

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If the dealer does successfully turn my cards over, I ask to see the hand every time until they left the table.

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Do you stamp your feet when you do this too?

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