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Old 09-26-2007, 03:31 AM
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villian is derekc123 or something on stars, i see him around 5 10 a lot usualld does well so i guesss hes a regular. he and i are playing pretty solid/tough tag poker im seeing lots of flops in posiiton and playing tight oop.

first hand we're 2k deep he raises btn to 30 I reraise to $120 with QJsoooooooooooted he calls

I lead for 210 on

Q 6 4 w. flush draw he calls

turn Ax

I check and call ~$400

rivers a brick, low non flush card that doesn't make straights either, I can find HH later if its really important, its just a brick from what i remember

and i check call a little less than $1k river shove


guess it's really all about how we view eachother and how often i reraise, how often he calls flop and with what type of hands etc. fwiw hes been giving me respect on me reraises too so that may make this call worse

anyways that hand is stupid and hard to comment on but the next one may be easier

I raise button to $40 he reraises to like 150/160 I calls w. QJ suits irrelevant

flop comes

Q J x (one heart) and he leads for around pot, like $250 or so

I consider raising here for value/protection etc. but figure i'm better off letting him fire turn and moving in if he has overpair/TPTK or whatever in that its harder to fold after putting in a big turn bet.

turn brigns 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he checks to me

i bet ~600ish and he calls pretty quick

river is a wonderful A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and he openshoves for little less than pot around 1100...

what does his hand look like, what does my hand look like, and should I call this?
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:34 AM
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these hands are really interesting

i don't see any real option other than folding 2 though, because even though it definitely looks like you got [censored], there's just no coherent hand that he'd play this way that you beat
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Old 09-26-2007, 03:50 AM
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these hands are not interesting, the first one is terrible and the second one is bad too (not raising the flop, specifically)

also, the lack of information and attention to detail would give a good poker player fits, and leave them unable to answer so many questions
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:12 AM
The Velour Fog The Velour Fog is offline
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hand 1 is just mindboggingly bad without some crazy history wtf? thats solid/tough tag poker for you i guess...

hand 2 why even bother slowplaying after butchering hand 1 like that?
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:21 AM
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hand 2, you talk about him continuing to bet top pair or overpair on turning, you think he's folding those to a raise? also he's probably 3-betting some draws and such raise u nit.
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Old 09-26-2007, 04:32 AM
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Not raising the flop with these stacks in hand 2 seems bad.

And hand one is god awful.
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