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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
Dear General Manager
Thank you for your call of November 28, 2007. I really appreciate the opportunity to make a contribution to your equity shortfall in the Mazda you acquired from me. As you can well imagine, at this festive time of year I am provided with many opportunities to contribute to charitable causes. Unfortunately I cannot afford to support them all. This year I was particularly interested in the Liver Foundation, and I concentrated my financial contributions in that area. For lifestyle reasons, I also saw my donation as an investment in my future health care needs. Though there may come a time in the future when I may be inclined to contribute to the "Pathically-Grovelling-and-Whining-Dealer-Rushed-to-Make-a-Sale-and-Now-Regrets-it" fund, I can't see this happening during any coherent moment, and as such, I just can't place you as a priority on my future charitable recipient list. Should my financial circumstances change, I would be pleased to send you another letter with these same sentiments, albeit on much finer stationary. In closing, I am honored that you would consider me to share in the equity shortfall, but I must decline. I'm sure you will make it up in future transactions. Sincerely, W.O. Title PS. Thanks for the new BMW calendar. The rustic scene for September 2008 is particularly breathtaking. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
gonores,
How much of a hassle is it going to be returning the BMW after the lease if this goes poorly? More than you can get him to settle for now? |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
articknight,
AWESOME. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
I don't want to threadjack but your story reminds me of something that (almost) happened to me.
Years ago I gave my volvo to my sister when I got another car. She drove it a couple years then traded it in at a dealership. About a year after THAT, I get a letter in the mail from some tow company saying they towed my volvo and I owe $80 + $5/day until I come get it. I disregard letter because hey, I haven't owned that car in years. I get another letter and so this time I call them. "Hey uh I hate to tell you guys this but you got the wrong guy. I sold that car years ago.". They say "tough [censored] man you are the last known owner, you owe us the money." "But tow guys, I'm not the legal owner. The title is not in my name, the registration is not in my name, etc etc why the hell do you think I'm responsible?" So we go back and forth back and forth finally I learn that it is because a seller's report was never filed (this little thing on the end of the title that you detach and send in after selling the car). Finally I say "Ok even though we agree the title is NOT in my name and I'm NOT the legal owner and I'm NOT the registered owner, I still have to pay?" "yes" "ok then I will be down to pick up the car tomorrow" (Hey for like $100 I can get the car back and sell it right? It was probably only worth $500 or so). "Sorry sir, but if you can't prove you own the car we can't let you take it". "WTF????? You're gonna make me pay the bill but won't let me take the car? What will you do just leave it on the curb?" Finally we call the dealership where my sister traded it in, they said "Hey this is our fault we will take care of it, sorry for this inconvenience". Case closed. The moral of this story and OP is MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT PAPERWORK |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
gonores,
I've never heard of a single situation where a car dealer offered to "split the difference" with a customer when someone overpaid or felt misled or somehow something happened due to the customer's sloppiness that resulted in them paying more money than they felt they should. So I see no moral obligation on your part to make up for the dealer's screwup. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
good point diablo
when you go meet the guy ask him that very question |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
OP,
You were a dick to tell them you'll search for the title and then blow them off for months. If you want to do something to relieve that guilt, that's fine. But think a little before you decide the car dealership should benefit from it. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
[ QUOTE ]
I've never heard of a single situation where a car dealer offered to "split the difference" with a customer when someone overpaid or felt misled or somehow something happened due to the customer's sloppiness that resulted in them paying more money than they felt they should. [/ QUOTE ] untrue. I have been at the same dealership for over 12 years and you would be amazed at the things that go on "behind the scenes" when it comes to doing the right thing instead of milking every penney one can from their guests. With that being said, the dealer should have insured that the car was titled to the person that traded it. A tag receipt, TML etc could easily have done this. The OP did say that the car was registered to him before the sale and it was not. Is the OP a real tool? IMO, yes.....does he owe them money? IMO, no. Doesnt matter now but the dealer should have completed the paperwork and held the paperwork or held a check for the trade value until OP produced the title. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
i just don't see a used car losing that much value in less then a year with no extra miles on it either.
But you are cool in my book, and I have relatively strict morals. |
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Re: Moral dilemma/car dealership help? (a little long)
The last time I traded a car in I didn't have a title either(lost) They had me sign a form stating that I was the legal owner and the title was free and clear. Never heard from them again. I think it might be their fault unless you did sign such statement and then who knows.
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