FT200 Puking in the river

[Dire]

The river is incredibly marginal. Hero likely has a crappy image due his style, he played the hand poorly and now has an incredibly difficult decision. IMO, there is not enough information to make an even remotely reasonable decision. This would depend so heavily on history, bet timing, game flow, blah..

And trying to give a range for villain here is just silly. Villain is bluffing or has hero crushed. There's no telling if he decided to float the flop planning to bluff a later street but was scared by the ace, if he's turning a marginal made hand into a bluff or what. Obviously his 'crushing' range is extremely miniscule, but what's important is his bluffing frequency and how likely hero's image/play is likely to have induced a bluff.

I think the comment: "you played it so weak up to now, so you have to call" is extremely legit. Hero's play and image could easily induce bluffs. Of course, there's no way of being even remotely certain. Not enough information. That said, I do think the weak play could easily induce a bluff so I would call this.

[Double Eagle]

Please bet/call the turn or don't 3 bet this hand in the first place. Your reluctance to get stacked is really quite boring.

[spivey]

Nielso, you're so bad a poker I could just stab you.

[sh58]

markuisis, you should probably be more tricky in 3bet pots with regs.

if you don't think the villain will float with nothing then you are likely being outplayed alot.

floating in 3bet pots is awesome

[markuisis]

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markuisis, you should probably be more tricky in 3bet pots with regs.

if you don't think the villain will float with nothing then you are likely being outplayed alot.

floating in 3bet pots is awesome

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floating on this board is gib, there r so many draws/made hands that r in hero's range that hell be jamming the turn with IMO and if villain was floating and he gets checked to on a scare card like an ace - he would almost certainly bet it to fold out a pair of kings, pocket queens, jacks, tens etc.

[Some9]

I like it if you call river. Yeah eh will have AK sometimes, but you can't fold here as the hand is top of your range and hence folding would be exploitable.

[markuisis]

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I like it if you call river. Yeah eh will have AK sometimes, but you can't fold here as the hand is top of your range and hence folding would be exploitable.

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exploitable by who? ppl who know what we folded? our line looks so weak that hes def not going to think we layed down a big hand and even if he did and even if he started trying to run us over - u could just adjust his range accordingly. But, just cause our line looks weaker than our hand actually is, does not by any means imply u have to call an overbet shove when a flush hits. I think its also very unlikely villain checks behind two pair or better on the turn, so like i said, hes mostly likely drawing and I'd fold this river to an unknown's first overbet. It seems like ppl r just spewing terms like under-repped or exploitable etc. when really the only thing that matters is villain's range.
Plz propose some plausible hands that we beat and I think ull find that itll just come down to what i stated earlier about whether or not he would overbet bluff a busted straight draw enough of the time to make calling profitable.

[Dire]

Exploitable by anybody who's even remotely capable of picking up on tendencies. Hero's hand is the nut single pair hand - and he said he planned to check/fold the river. Meaning he's giving villain credit for two pair or better after villain's incredibly strong line of calling a cbet and checking behind on the turn. That is called playing weak tight. It's not uncommon, it's easy to pick up on, and very easy to exploit.