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Old 11-08-2007, 10:24 AM
SellingtheDrama SellingtheDrama is offline
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A woman this weekend played almost every hand and stated that it wasn't the hole cards that mattered, it was the flop. She said this constantly and reiterated that any two cards were good cards until the flop. She also said Hold 'Em was 80% luck and 20% skill.

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Well assuming her first statement is true (attempting to keep a straight face here), I do agree with the second.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:58 AM
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A lady out at Red Rock checked behind on the river and turned over the Floosh Royale.

I said: "Ma'am, at what point did you think your hand was no good?"

I couldn't help myself.

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Sometimes you have to do that because of jackpots.

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Is this a level? Who's going to fold to a river bet here with a jackpot-eligible hand?

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No it's not a level. How is anyone supposed to know she has a Royal Flush? Do you honestly think that every time there are 3 Royal Flush cards on the board that you can't get 62o to fold? Checking down jackpot hands is very very common, and usually correct.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:46 AM
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I think people are considering two different types of jackpots. Most jackpots where I have played are Bat Beat Jackpots, where someone has to lose with a big full house or better. Even if a royal is possible, it is certainly very unlikely anyone is going to fold aces full, so the royal shouldn't have to worry.

If it is some sort of high hand jackpot where a hand has to be shown down to win, then checking the royal would make sense. I have rarely played in any rooms with high hand jackpots, and I would have guessed that if there was no showdown, someone with a royal could still flip it over to claim the jackpot, but this might not be the case in all casinos.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:10 PM
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Then the megadonk on my right tried to pay for his beer with tournament chips and I just burst out laughing.

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OMG GOLD
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:01 PM
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I once over heard a guy saying that 89 suited was 50/50 vs Aces. I questioned him on it and he stuck to his guns saying that it was 50/50 and he always cracks Aces with 89 suited. Then other players at the table started to chime in and say the same thing ! Unreal. I even gave them all a way out by saying "Alright I know that 89 suited is a versatile hand and I'd rather have that versus Aces than AK but do you really think that it's 50/50?" The guy then said it may not be 50/50 but it's pretty damn close and a few other people were like "yeah it's pretty close". At that point I just said okay and stayed quiet.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:03 PM
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I once over heard a guy saying that 89 suited was 50/50 vs Aces. I questioned him on it and he stuck to his guns saying that it was 50/50 and he always cracks Aces with 89 suited. Then other players at the table started to chime in and say the same thing ! Unreal. I even gave them all a way out by saying "Alright I know that 89 suited is a versatile hand and I'd rather have that versus Aces than AK but do you really think that it's 50/50?" The guy then said it may not be 50/50 but it's pretty damn close and a few other people were like "yeah it's pretty close". At that point I just said okay and stayed quiet.

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That's when I get tempted to buy a deck of cards - let them pick out the four cards that we each get....and start dealing boards while betting him even money. Shoot I'll be generous and give him to 2:1 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:41 PM
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A couple of weeks ago playing 3-6 LHE. Old lady next to me in MP open limps. CO raises. Folds to BB, who calls, Old Lady calls.
Flop comes KKT.
BB checks, Old Lady bets, CO raises, BB folds, Old Lady calls.
Turn is a 5, Old Lady checks, CO bets, Old Lady calls.
River is a 7, Old Lady checks, CO bets, Old Lady calls.
CO turns over TT for a flopped boat. Old Lady turns over KK for flopped quads. The table goes crazy! DID SHE REALLY JUST FLOP QUADS AND CHECK CALL THE WHOLE WAY??? I lean over and ask her why she never raised him, she says "I was worried about what he had. I've been burned like that too many times!" It takes everything within me not keel over. It takes about 3 hours for the scared old lady to lose 4 or 5 buy ins. She actually complained to me a couple of times that she never wins big pots!! Good times
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:01 PM
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I think people are considering two different types of jackpots.

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Why'd you have to ruin the fun? I wanted to see how long it was going to take people to realize this.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:22 PM
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I once over heard a guy saying that 89 suited was 50/50 vs Aces. I questioned him on it and he stuck to his guns saying that it was 50/50 and he always cracks Aces with 89 suited. Then other players at the table started to chime in and say the same thing ! Unreal. I even gave them all a way out by saying "Alright I know that 89 suited is a versatile hand and I'd rather have that versus Aces than AK but do you really think that it's 50/50?" The guy then said it may not be 50/50 but it's pretty damn close and a few other people were like "yeah it's pretty close". At that point I just said okay and stayed quiet.

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I was once playing in a pretty big and expensive tournament. The action went as follows: shortstack pushes, regular stack re-pushes, and uber-maniac big stack behind has to call off a considerable number of chips if he wants to play. However, he says he has a hand that's always lucky for him, and he's going to make what seems like a stupid call. The shortstack has A5, the regular stack has AA, and the big stack confidently turns over 98s. Sure enough, he gets one pair on the flop, and the second pair on the turn, and the river is a brick.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:49 PM
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I think people are considering two different types of jackpots.

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Why'd you have to ruin the fun? I wanted to see how long it was going to take people to realize this.

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I've played at 5 or 6 places with 'Monte Carlo' style high hand jackpots. None of them have required they go to showdown to be paid off. The only promotions I've seen requiring showdown are 'aces cracked' and bad beat jackpots.
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