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Old 08-29-2007, 02:17 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Tricky river decision (1/2)

Haven't been paying enough attention to have much of a read on villain, but he hasn't been out of line. Don't have my HUD open either.


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MP ($46.20)
Button ($74.20)
SB ($129.35)
Hero ($342.50)
UTG ($106.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.75</font>, Button calls $4.75.

Turn: ($14.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, Button calls $8.

River: ($30.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $59.45</font>
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

I'd call cuz he open limped on the button, only has 75, and your bet sizing with the board might encourage him to bluff.

It is closish tho, I wouldn't hate a fold.
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

is leading the flop standard here?
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

I would c/c river. You are WA/WB.

As played, given your turn and river bets, and without any discernable read other than he's sitting w/ 3/4 stack and open limped the button, I'd make the call here expecting to be good often enough to make it +EV.
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:34 PM
Triantafylidis Triantafylidis is offline
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

i cant really say i like the lead on the flop... There are hands that you beat here even if it isnt a stone cold bluff so i probably make the reluctant call. Youd be surprised how many times donks have flipped over two spades in this situation and play it like the nuts. PM me the outcome [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:42 PM
Aisthesis Aisthesis is offline
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

"he hasn't been out of line"
That should really mean fold, but in a HU pot, I have trouble with that.

There's AT, A4, TT (which is the main loser that I think he might have) 44 and nut flush. I guess I'd have to call. I think you win this more than 1/3 of the time, and HU I do think it's possible he's playing a flush that way.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:01 PM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

I'll get to the outcome in the thread eventually after we get through the discussion.

Was going to comment on this for now though:

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I would c/c river. You are WA/WB.

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By definition, we're always WA/WB on the river since there are no cards left for anyone to catch up to us. However, this certainly isn't a checking situation. Weak flushes and maybe even Axxx will pay us but will rarely bet if checked to. And I don't see anything villain can have at this point that he'd be looking to bluff with.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

call and cry

PSB turn
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

I would like a check/call on the river.. Anyways.. Villain played his hand kinda weird.. I would cry and call about 70% of the time, and the other 30% I would fold, depending on the player.. against a super tight never-bluffing opponent it's a fold 100% of the time... But, what lead you into this spot was the weakish river bet.. you should bet(strong)/fold, or check call this river.. I like c/c by far
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Tricky river decision (1/2)

Standard. Prolly a call on the river, but regretably

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