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Old 07-01-2007, 06:11 AM
skier_5 skier_5 is offline
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Default 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

Villian is nemuii, who is a reg who is pretty spewy and not particularly great. We have tangled a bit in the past and I've mostly come out ahead since he likes to make thin calls (and bets) with marginal hands. He likely views me as fairly taggish.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($1988)
UTG ($2339.50)
Button ($3771)
Hero ($3632)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $255</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $195.

Flop: ($530) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $340</font>, Button calls $340.

Turn: ($1210) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $750</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1500</font>

How's my line up to here? what's my play now?
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:41 AM
ManYac ManYac is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

For me call, and c/c river.

I dont like this bet on the turn.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

You can't fold this against him w/o reads. Call turn and c/c riv and write down what he has.

Also, turn bet against him is REQUIRED or else you're robbing yourself.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:48 AM
dasch dasch is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

The flop call and min turn raise by villian smells like a set to me.......I fold unless in the past he has made weak raises with marginal hands.
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:35 AM
23act 23act is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

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You can't fold this against him w/o reads. Call turn and c/c riv and write down what he has.

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agree

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Also, turn bet against him is REQUIRED or else you're robbing yourself.

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i really don't like to bet the turn this deep coz i feel we'll get stacked/loose a lot more the times we are behind AND not gain much more value (as apposed to checking the turn and betting the river) from the times we are ahead. thoughts?
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

wow at people saying check the turn vs this guy. if it was me in this hand i would push the turn. for you, i say call, and c/c the riv

-Mike
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:29 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

wtf, just shove man this seems too obvious
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

i shove and then say out loud "WTF NICE CALL PRE WITH KJ FISH??" i guess
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

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wow at people saying check the turn vs this guy. if it was me in this hand i would push the turn. for you, i say call, and c/c the riv

-Mike

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yes everyone saying check the turn has no idea how to play this game
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Old 07-01-2007, 10:37 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 deepish top 2 in 3bet pot

I'd say your line and bet sizing is great throughout the hand. This is such a strange spot tho jeeez... if he's spewy I shove but Ive seen the flop flatcall and turn minraise a lot, especially from weaker players, to be the nuts or close to it. If he'd flatcall you preflop with AT or QT or something, or like Axs (in this case A6s), then I shove all day here. Otherwise, flip a coin on calling down or shoving; I don't think folding is good in a 4handed game vs a sorta spewy donk with top 2 in a reraised pot.
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