Stars is now number one.

[JohnnyFX]

Fortunately he only had the 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

With an A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

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[JohnnyFX]

One more try...

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Do you know what the statistical odds are for that? Just to show you an example....try flipping a coin (50%) and have it land on one side seven times in a row. Nevermind the fact that I had 80% chance, not 50%.

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If you only flip 7 times it's pretty darned unlikely. Flip 1000 times and you might get a 7 straight run or two in there.

[Wongboy]

Live poker is clearly less random than online sites. This is something that can be demonstrated objectively. Simply have a computer simulate the shuffling procedure for your favorite live casino. Any hand shuffle is going to be far from random since casinos would like their dealers to get out more than 10 hands per hour. An automated shuffler should be more random than a hand shuffle, but I believe that the common auto-shufflers have been demonstrated to be less than truly random, and in any event, they could only ever be AS random as a computerized, online shuffle, since the underlying algorithms would be controlled by a computer.

[Dire]

Ok. I have definitive proof that online poker is rigged. I was just playing at Stars. I was dealt:

1. As 5d
2. 7h 3c
3. Js 9s

Do you get it?? The odds of getting any of those hands in that order is 1/52 * 1/51 = 0.000377073906!!!! NOT ONLY WAS I DEALT THOSE EXACT THREE HANDS, BUT ONE AFTER THE OTHER. That is 0.000377073906^3 or .0000000000536141519!!! That's obviously [censored]. This is such a joke. I was just dealt Qs Kc!! Want to add up the odds of that happening?? Yeah, you got it. This crap is so blatant. I can't believe nobody's caught on yet.

[Guthrie]

I lose 7 all-ins in a row routinely at Stars. Are you saying this is unusual?

[frommagio]

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Ok. I have definitive proof that online poker is rigged. I was just playing at Stars. I was dealt:

1. As 5d
2. 7h 3c
3. Js 9s

Do you get it?? The odds of getting any of those hands in that order is 1/52 * 1/51 = 0.000377073906!!!! NOT ONLY WAS I DEALT THOSE EXACT THREE HANDS, BUT ONE AFTER THE OTHER. That is 0.000377073906^3 or .0000000000536141519!!! That's obviously [censored]. This is such a joke. I was just dealt Qs Kc!! Want to add up the odds of that happening?? Yeah, you got it. This crap is so blatant. I can't believe nobody's caught on yet.

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Very nice post! I bet very few people fully appreciate it, even here.

[iH8poker]

The original poster maybe right...

Stars is gaining fast in popularity...but this is most likely to do with...the fact that...PARTYPOKER IS RIGGED!!!!!!!!!

It's just way to easy to win there. Or maybe it's that monster leech that sucks the pot out of every table.

I would also prefer a 'individual users' statistic rather than 'active seats' but it's not a big deal.

iH8poker

[PokerSlave]

Reading most of the large number of replies to this post, and not having a strong opinion on the topic one way or the other, two questions (at least) come up for me:
1) Why all the aciditic passion from people defending on-line poker sites, attacking anyone who might question the integrity of what in some cases are clearly boiler-room operations hq'd in third-world countries? You guys/gals own a lot of stock or something? I mean, why is anyone who does not have a perosnal stack in the business getting so bent out of shape about idle speculation like this?
2) At the risk of bringing a s---storm of nasty comments down on me, why would a rational self-serving person think that some of these sites are NOT biased (rigged, tilted, whatever term you prefer) at least in some subtle ways to make themselves more money?

[HSB]

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Reading most of the large number of replies to this post, and not having a strong opinion on the topic one way or the other, two questions (at least) come up for me:
1) Why all the aciditic passion from people defending on-line poker sites, attacking anyone who might question the integrity of what in some cases are clearly boiler-room operations hq'd in third-world countries? You guys/gals own a lot of stock or something? I mean, why is anyone who does not have a perosnal stack in the business getting so bent out of shape about idle speculation like this?

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They're making a claim that would be pretty easy to verify with hard data and they refuse to do so. If you think a site is rigged, datamine the hell out of it for a few months and show us the proof. The kind of thinking that gets people to believe that poker sites are rigged is the same kind of thinking that makes fraud psychics and faith healers rich and it's borderline immoral to let it go unchallenged.

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2) At the risk of bringing a s---storm of nasty comments down on me, why would a rational self-serving person think that some of these sites are NOT biased (rigged, tilted, whatever term you prefer) at least in some subtle ways to make themselves more money?

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Why would they risk it? What are they really going to gain?

[Mark L]

i just wanted to say i'm hella-impressed with how fast stars updated the FPP store to include the new line of iPods.