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Old 06-05-2007, 07:05 AM
HedonismBot HedonismBot is offline
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With no more detailed reads or stats on the villain or on how much you've been 3betting from the blinds then I think it's hard to say much more...

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Some more detailed blind play: I 3-bet him with a pretty wide range preflop, 3-betting big pairs and big aces close to 100%. He knows my cold call means I will mostly have lower pocket pairs and connectors and sometimes hands like A10 or KJ. I will also checkraise the flop a fair ammount of time when I cold call.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:09 AM
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I don't think we have enough reads to effectively put him on a hand. We need more post-flop reads, like is he capable of checking behind the flop with an overpair to induce a bluff.

Let's just say he plays typically for a solid good SSNL player.

He raises from CO meaning his range is pretty wide. The flop check behind means two things: either he missed and isn't paired and likes the free card, or he has a big pair, realizes that the flop is very dry, isn't too afraid of an overcard flopping, and figures he's WA/WB. The former case is most likely tho. He could also be slowplaying a monster.

You bet the pot on the turn. I don't think this villain is calling a pot-sized bet with overs, so I'd probably rule out that he hits the jack on the river. The only draws right now are 56 and A2. Let's give this guy some credit and rule out A2 (calling a psb with 7 outs, 3 of which might be dirty isn't good play).

There is a small but non-zero chance hes floating you on the turn as well.

You check the river and he value bets. In my mind this is only one of two things. A pocket pair or 45. Why would he have called the turn with a jack. It just doesn't make sense.

I think his range on the river is any pocket pair or 45. You are getting a very good price to look him up, but a bluff is such a small part of his range. That being said I probably look him up for this small a price, just to get some info on his play and sometimes catch a bluff.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:13 AM
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Because he thinks calling is more profitable than reraising?

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is calling profitable??

RR or fold is probably better IMO.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:18 AM
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Because he thinks calling is more profitable than reraising?

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is calling profitable??

RR or fold is probably better IMO.

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wtf of course it's profitable.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:24 AM
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i would never fold 77 under the circumstance.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:25 AM
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55/66

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are you serious?


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to the people saying fold preflop- wtf are you talking about?

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villain has a wide range
is said to be good
oop
no implied odds


if a call can be +ev (which i am not even sure of) most ssnl players will [censored] up the hand postflop. better advice to just fold


i'm willing to 3bet preflop, just not everytime
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:30 AM
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we'd have to average making $245 when we hit a set. how often do you think he's losing half his stack when we flop a set?
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:36 AM
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that's if u think our pp is only good for set value but there is a good chance that our hand is best pf.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:38 AM
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we'd have to average making $245 when we hit a set. how often do you think he's losing half his stack when we flop a set?

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no we dont have to make that much because sometimes we can win without a set.
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:45 AM
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we'd have to average making $245 when we hit a set. how often do you think he's losing half his stack when we flop a set?

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no we dont have to make that much because sometimes we can win without a set.

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ok i guess it's an obvious call then....
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