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Old 09-21-2007, 01:36 PM
DVO DVO is offline
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Default Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

This hand happened yesterday at Hawaiian Gardens.

Players:

Villain (Under the gun) ( $330)
Me ( $330) ( middle position)
Schmoe ( $500) Late position
Schmendrick ( $170 ) Button

Villain has made little impression. Limps a lot, hasn't raised much. Middle aged Asian guy, well dressed.

Schmoe is loose young Asian guy.

Schmendrick is loose middle aged white guy.

My image is pretty tight as I have been getting crap cards for 3 hours.

Blinds 3/5.

Villain limps, I make it $30 with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Schmoe, schmendrick, and villain all call. (This is HG, after all)

Pot is $125.

Flop come 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]-J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img],

Villain open shoves $300 into the pot of $125.

I am next to act. obviously two are behind me to act, which I think makes this hand a bit more interesting.

Call or fold? If Schmoe or Schmendrick come along, I'm getting at least 2 to 1, which i need if there is a set out there. But if someone has a flush I am a 3/1 dog.

Thoughts?

(Sorry to post this and run, I won't be able to reply for a few hours.)
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:56 PM
zaxx19 zaxx19 is offline
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

call....

fckit Im here to gamble this isnt much money and decent advertising...he probably has J10 or something...

Asian luv a Gambool you might get Ks to call or somthing especially if he pairs the other card.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

Having people to act behind me entices me to call more.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

lol fold it
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

Not sure what is so funny.

I'm prolly not folding this heads up where I can be fairly certain I am behind. Add in that all my draws are to the nuts and extra money coming behind only makes me happy to get it in.
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:42 PM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

Call.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

I would beat him into the pot..
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

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Villain has made little impression. Limps a lot, hasn't raised much

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This doesn't sound like a player making a move with something trashy, like top pair.
To me his range is QQs,JT, JJ, TT, 77, 98, flushes, and maybe KsQx or KsJx.
Therefore, I fold this heads up. Possibly getting a call behind makes it close. It depends how often, but even a crazy gambooler wont call behind without a nice piece of this flop.
So, I think I'd fold.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

Kind of funny how 2p2 is advocating getting the money in with a draw when we are being offered no pot odds of any kind. Didn't know a one card flush draw and a gutshot was such an amazing holding. Granted, he usually doesn't have a flush here, so we're almost always drawing to 12 outs, and maybe more as far as pairing one of our holecards, but we're never in GREAT shape.

For those of you who think that people coming in behind us is great, what hands do you think are overcalling that are good for us? Would it be fair to say that just about all overcalls after you shove will be comprised of sets/flushes?
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Live AK hand, flop decision. 3/5 NL

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Kind of funny how 2p2 is advocating getting the money in with a draw when we are being offered no pot odds of any kind. Didn't know a one card flush draw and a gutshot was such an amazing holding. Granted, he usually doesn't have a flush here, so we're almost always drawing to 12 outs, and maybe more as far as pairing one of our holecards, but we're never in GREAT shape.

For those of you who think that people coming in behind us is great, what hands do you think are overcalling that are good for us? Would it be fair to say that just about all overcalls after you shove will be comprised of sets/flushes?

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Ye i thgt the same, I mean even if i was HU in position i would mostlikly fold this, the pot ods are not correct.. but if u want meta game? i dunno... (im not sre what kinda meta game would apply..but id fold it)

Alternativly if u WANT the others to call, make a speech like, i got the A of spades i call.. so other ppl behind u mite overcall with pairs... or is this very shady? i dont play live much,,
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