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09-21-2007, 01:03 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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You could easily have a 6 here, and the turn check behind reinforces that idea. He's blocking....bluff raaaaaisssssseeeeeee. [/ QUOTE ] Am i really calling a 115 more with a 6 in my hand? We are pretty deep, so i could have 66 or 67s, but i think he is not folding AK. BTW, i folded on the river.Just this whole hand felt so weak... 
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#13
09-21-2007, 01:04 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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as played i would prob fold river.....if he's a tricky tag I like 4 betting pre....even in pos. 1010 can put you into tough a spot on almost any flop [/ QUOTE ] UTG+1 raiser being 3-bet out of the SB. 4-betting is bad.
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#14
09-21-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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If you bet the flop you probably need to call a crai [/ QUOTE ] because you think i induced a lot of bluffs with AK/AQ types of hands? (or maybe he has 66/77 and semibluffs?)
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#15
09-21-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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[ QUOTE ] You could easily have a 6 here, and the turn check behind reinforces that idea. He's blocking....bluff raaaaaisssssseeeeeee. [/ QUOTE ] Am i really calling a 115 more with a 6 in my hand? We are pretty deep, so i could have 66 or 67s, but i think he is not folding AK. BTW, i folded on the river.Just this whole hand felt so weak... [/ QUOTE ] I dont see how with no read you dont cry and call off on the river my man...thats just me...you said no read so...
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#16
09-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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[ QUOTE ] If you bet the flop you probably need to call a crai [/ QUOTE ] because you think i induced a lot of bluffs with AK/AQ types of hands? (or maybe he has 66/77 and semibluffs?) [/ QUOTE ] if he shows up with hands like 66 and 77 thsats really key in determining ur equity
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#17
09-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You could easily have a 6 here, and the turn check behind reinforces that idea. He's blocking....bluff raaaaaisssssseeeeeee. [/ QUOTE ] Am i really calling a 115 more with a 6 in my hand? We are pretty deep, so i could have 66 or 67s, but i think he is not folding AK. BTW, i folded on the river.Just this whole hand felt so weak... [/ QUOTE ] I dont see how with no read you dont cry and call off on the river my man...thats just me...you said no read so... [/ QUOTE ] Calling is horrible, there's nothing you really beat. If villain is good he can't discount :67s, 68s, 66, 56s, 46s. Also, you were beat even if the K didn't come out. I think he has JJ-AA here a lot esp. with his line. He also wouldn't expect you to turn 88-QQ into a bluff. Raise>fold>>>>>>>call. The biggest thing about a move like this is you don't actually need to fold him out 50% of the time to be profitable. The times you get called work miracles for your image and make up for your lost equity. Besides, I think you fold him out more than 70% of the time. So raise.
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#18
09-21-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
You know, almost every time i try to convince myself that i have big odds to call, i call and lose.It maybe a weak play but i am so tired of paying off small valuebets that ppl throw at me knowing i am getting huge odds...
FWIW, he claimed in chat that he caught a 7 with 78.Complete bull?
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#20
09-21-2007, 01:48 PM
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Re: Lost on every street with TT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You could easily have a 6 here, and the turn check behind reinforces that idea. He's blocking....bluff raaaaaisssssseeeeeee. [/ QUOTE ] Am i really calling a 115 more with a 6 in my hand? We are pretty deep, so i could have 66 or 67s, but i think he is not folding AK. BTW, i folded on the river.Just this whole hand felt so weak... [/ QUOTE ] I dont see how with no read you dont cry and call off on the river my man...thats just me...you said no read so... [/ QUOTE ] Calling is horrible, there's nothing you really beat. If villain is good he can't discount :67s, 68s, 66, 56s, 46s. Also, you were beat even if the K didn't come out. I think he has JJ-AA here a lot esp. with his line. He also wouldn't expect you to turn 88-QQ into a bluff. Raise>fold>>>>>>>call. The biggest thing about a move like this is you don't actually need to fold him out 50% of the time to be profitable. The times you get called work miracles for your image and make up for your lost equity. Besides, I think you fold him out more than 70% of the time. So raise. [/ QUOTE ] Im not a huge fan of calling...actually your raising idea is inline with how I play alot of times...attacking a weak river bet but....I dont think he can fold getting 3.75:1 there...not with no read. Sorry you just see funky stuff often enough bro'.
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