shall i call this donkebet my 4 paired?

[Gobgogbog]

Blinds are tight. Well, SB is actually 34/0/1.19 but he loves to fold his SB. BB is 16.3/8.75/1.36 but is somewhat comfortable defending his BB. Still, preflop may be a tad out of line, but I'm not too concerned with that. What I'm more interested in is donkbets in general. I've been calling them a lot more recnetly, what do you think of this call and if you like it what is your plan for the river?


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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls

[2+2 wannabe]

I call down because a TAG will c/r this turn if they have a 9

they would make this move with any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] broadway

calling down &gt; raising/folding

[Nilbud]

I'm not sure about the pre-flop, but how and ever...

I think a lot of players love to donk a paired board HU, especially when they think there's a good chance you've missed. I like raising the turn and hoping for a cheap showdown.

[Gobgogbog]

[ QUOTE ]
I call down because a TAG will c/r this turn if they have a 9

they would make this move with any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] broadway

calling down &gt; raising/folding

[/ QUOTE ]

And I assume you take the free SD if it's offered?

River: (6 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

[dietlime]

I agree that BB rarely has a 9 here - looks most like a flush draw semibluff or pure bluff assuming you have overs. I'd raise it - that being the last money I put in UI. I'd fold to a turn 3bet and plan to ck behind on the river UI.

[Gobgogbog]

The more I've thought about it I'm tending toward raising here. If I'm behind it costs me the same, and if I'm ahead I'm rarely getting another bet out of him anyway so best to not let him draw to his 6 outs

[Nilbud]

[ QUOTE ]
I call down because a TAG will c/r this turn if they have a 9

they would make this move with any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] broadway

calling down &gt; raising/folding

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do you think calling down is better than raising? If you know it's unlikely he has a 9, I think it's better to raise and hope for a fold right there, or at least a cheap showdown given hero's mediocre holding.

[londomollari]

This line is Ace-hi often or just a draw, raise for value and bet most rivers if he 3-bets of course fold.

[poker-penguin]

Most players will check with top pair or better here I think. The exception being if they are cunning enough to realise you expekt them to do that.

I still think I lean towards call check/call rather than raising since if he three bets we lose the pot and if we're behind we lose an extra bet more than we make an extra bet when we're ahead.