50: I have a set OMG GOGOGO???

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you are allowed to bet more than the pot sometimes, ya know

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way cool.
however, your post reads like it is some official standard 2p2 line - which it is not. i tend to overbet pot when stack sizes are awkward, or on the river for xtra special value. overbetting here is ok, but betting pot is certainly no mistake.

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This is a beautiful spot to overbet the pot. We're going vs 2 opponents, OOP, if both sit with draws out there, they get a good price to draw if we put out a more modest bet.
Overpairs will still call/raise, we'll still go broke vs better hands, TP/two pair still call, and we get more money off draws (who most likely will call), overcards think "wtf?" and may be tempted to call to find out/get lucky, too... So overall we get a lot more value.

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Good post.

[jgunnip]

Curveball: I actually froze up on the hand and just called on the turn cause this is the first time villan has raised me in like 200 hands. River was a 4 and I c/f to a push. lol@me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

fwiw if the board had paired on the river or been T+ I probably open push?

[jgunnip]

I see what you guys are saying about overbetting the pot here. I'll lead like this with any straight or flush draw along with two pair, sets, and sometimes any one pair hands if I know villans like to limp with any two high cards. I'm probably overestimating the extent to which donks are payign attention to me.

[Check_The_Nuts]

grunched....

yeah I think I just call the raise. I know its super-nitty but betting into 2 people in two streets like that shows a ton of a strength, and its an unraised pot.

probably losing a ton of value just calling tho. Meh w.e.

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played fine as long as you dont fold. pf usually raise but whatever.

[Check_The_Nuts]

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played fine as long as you dont fold. pf usually raise but whatever.

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come on thats not fair, call or raise orange?

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i like shoving the turn. there are many scare cards and i think its best to get the money in while you can. hope that he's doing this with something like 78 or 56.

[jgunnip]

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grunched....

yeah I think I just call the raise. I know its super-nitty but betting into 2 people in two streets like that shows a ton of a strength, and its an unraised pot.

probably losing a ton of value just calling tho. Meh w.e.

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Yea I was playing super nitty during this session, normally this is a pretty easy push since its just a pot-sized push.

[jgunnip]

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played fine as long as you dont fold. pf usually raise but whatever.

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Agaisnt opponents who limp/call too much I prefer checking small pairs from the blinds. I'd much prefer raising a hand like KQo here. I've been trying to tighten up some from the blinds since I cbet most flops and I was finding myself oop in a lot of tough situations.

[Frogic]

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Also checking the BB with 55 with two limpers is perfectly fine.
I mean we will often get two callers if we raise, no flops without a 5 will look good, and a cbet will probably be called to often to be profitable.


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We still Cbet boards that are good for us. It is also very hard to get it all-in in an unraised pot.