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05-14-2007, 10:20 AM
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Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'s.
I do well at cash games in the casino but not as well online, and I think there are a few reasons why I do better in online tournaments than at online cash games: I'm not the best hold em player, but I think that pervasive colluding is giving other players an edge, we all now know there are teams of bots trolling the sites, the algorithms used to "randomize" the deal are not entirely random and also those of us who do not employ software assistance (such as PT) are at a disadvantage.
So I'm thinking I'm going to move my play more to multi-table tournaments which, in my estimation, will cut down on the degree to which such "cheating" can be exploited. 
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#3
05-14-2007, 10:23 AM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'s.
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I do well at cash games in the casino but not as well online [/ QUOTE ] You listed a few reasons why, but I think you left out the most important and likely reason. Good luck at the donkaments.
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05-14-2007, 12:12 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'s.
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algorithms used to "randomize" the deal are not entirely random [/ QUOTE ] If you had to bet your life on which is likely to be "more random" then would you honestly choose a dealer shuffling the cards over the random number generator used by the poker sites? Talk about flogging a dead horse to death, then reviving it and flogging it again and again and again and again... Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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05-14-2007, 12:16 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'s.
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I do well at cash games in the casino but not as well online, and I think there are a few reasons why I do better in online tournaments than at online cash games: I'm not the best hold em player, but I think that pervasive colluding is giving other players an edge, we all now know there are teams of bots trolling the sites, the algorithms used to "randomize" the deal are not entirely random and also those of us who do not employ software assistance (such as PT) are at a disadvantage. So I'm thinking I'm going to move my play more to multi-table tournaments which, in my estimation, will cut down on the degree to which such "cheating" can be exploited. [/ QUOTE ] What stakes do you play? What do you mean by pervasive colluding? How does said colluding improve the colluders winrates? Basicly tell me more about collusion.
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#7
05-14-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'
You ever think maybe you play against online are a lot better than the donks at the casino? ZOMG IMPOSSIBLE
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#8
05-14-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'
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What stakes do you play? What do you mean by pervasive colluding? How does said colluding improve the colluders winrates? Basicly tell me more about collusion. [/ QUOTE ] Mostly low stakes, and this is very subjective, but I mean that there is probably a lot of colluding going on in online play. Some of the biggest names in poker have admitted to online collusion. (Though other big names have argued in the past that they have not seen actual evidence that collusion is effective.) I have found in my online play that it is rewarding to act on the principle that if something is possible, it's probable. And doubly so where money is involved. (What follows is something I'm making up on the fly here by way of illustration, since you requested one.) Collusion can be effective at improving winrates to the extent that, for example, you are working a six-seat table with one accomplice. You are dealt pocket tens on the button. Your accomplice is UTG, who folds, sending you an IM indicating which cards they folded, one of which was a ten, and you're facing a raise from the CO. Naturally, based upon the information you received, you fold. Just use your imagination.
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05-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'
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I do well at cash games in the casino but not as well online, and I think there are a few reasons why I do better in online tournaments than at online cash games: I'm not the best hold em player, but I think that pervasive colluding is giving other players an edge, we all now know there are teams of bots trolling the sites, the algorithms used to "randomize" the deal are not entirely random and also those of us who do not employ software assistance (such as PT) are at a disadvantage. So I'm thinking I'm going to move my play more to multi-table tournaments which, in my estimation, will cut down on the degree to which such "cheating" can be exploited. [/ QUOTE ] 270 posts and you are still trolling?
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05-14-2007, 01:34 PM
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Re: Collusion, bots, faulty algorithms online: I think answer is MTT\'
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[ QUOTE ] I do well at cash games in the casino but not as well online, and I think there are a few reasons why I do better in online tournaments than at online cash games: I'm not the best hold em player, but I think that pervasive colluding is giving other players an edge, we all now know there are teams of bots trolling the sites, the algorithms used to "randomize" the deal are not entirely random and also those of us who do not employ software assistance (such as PT) are at a disadvantage. So I'm thinking I'm going to move my play more to multi-table tournaments which, in my estimation, will cut down on the degree to which such "cheating" can be exploited. [/ QUOTE ] 270 posts and you are still trolling? [/ QUOTE ] It's always a good day to troll. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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