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QQ on paired flop
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)
SB: $21.11 Hero (BB): $192.75 UTG: $213.11 CO: $103.00 BTN: $151.74 Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14.00</font>, UTG calls $10.00 Flop: ($28.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $56.00</font>, Hero folds Pot Size: $104.50 Villain over 150 hands at 21/14/10 I hate bet/folding this flop but still prefer it over bet/shove. is check/raise here better? and what if he shoves my check raise? I opted for the fold because of the deep stacks and the position. the negative implied odds concept applies here i think. |
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Re: QQ on paired flop
what about bet call -> check/fold turn?
i cant see the advantage in this line |
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Re: QQ on paired flop
If you call flop you can't fold on the turn when blank hits.
Decide on the flop if you are going to invest your stack or muck. I think muck is best here. UTG can easily hav JJ, KK, AA. Neither AJ nor 55 I believe. If he bluffs me than ok, but I think we are behind more often. |
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Re: QQ on paired flop
Its a horrible spot but I like to lead out here, the trouble is he might do this with mid pocket pairs and you have him beat.
Depending on how likely I think he is to be able to make this move and how likely he is to bet the turn as a bluff I sometimes fold and sometimes call this and take my time to check the turn to him. If he then bets the turn as well its a fold, but often if he is finding out if his pp is good he will check behind. Also how often are you c-betting in his view? |
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Re: QQ on paired flop
yo a flop check here is fine...
also uh, he has AA/KK/JJ here go ahead and fold |
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Re: QQ on paired flop
Is that an AF of 10??? Doesnt this warrant closer consideration for a shove. I think villain could have any pocket pair here or AJ (possibly JT,QJ or KJ)or even a flush draw. I do think its a close call but I think we are ahead here often enough to warrant a push. I dont like a call on the flop cos we're in the same crappy situation on the turn and so its muck the flop or push for me.
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Re: QQ on paired flop
against an opponent like this, im calling the flop raise, and re evaluating the turn. he looks super aggro, cant let him run you over.
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