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Old 06-27-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $224.98
BB: $347.58
Hero (UTG): $208.71
MP: $240.04
CO: $120.90
BTN: $72.00

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 2+2 and a decent tag. We haven't tangled so much, but his standard 3-bet range appeared to be TT+ and AQ+. He's run between 25/20 and 22/15 (today) over a decent amount of hands.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $27.00</font>, Hero calls $19.00

Flop: ($55) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $35.00</font>, Hero calls $35.00

Turn: ($125) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $75.00</font>
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

Villains SN? And I usually fold this PF....
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:43 AM
Colombo Colombo is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

Fold preflop. Postflop is probably spew but I like it as long as you play Ax the same.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

fold PF

as played, i dont mind doing this sometimes
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

you know most standard 2+2 TAGs check this flop with KK/QQ right? i think this rarely works, and PF is pretty gross spew anyway
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

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Fold preflop. Postflop is probably spew but I like it as long as you play Ax the same.

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your one to say fold preflop you dont even fold this preflop OOP...
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

Ok. I was villain...Just checking. I had jacks and laid it down...but I'll more often (probability-wise) have AK/AQ than TT-KK (32 possibilities of AK/AQ and 16 possibilities of TT-KK, right?). So there's a 3-2 chance that I'll have him beat in this situation (not to mention that I'll play my ace exactly the same way).

If you were villain and had JJ...it's a fold still, right?
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

I think you played the hand fine and I think the c-bet is fine as well. Plenty of cards can harm you (k,q,8, diamond) you'll get called (potentially) by lower PP, 78,89, diamond draws and possibly even floated.

Turn is a nightmare for JJ - there is no hardly anything you can beat thus if he bets its total air or a hand that has higher value than you; on balance an easy fold I'd say.

I can see the merits in flop check too though although I don't think its quite as wa/wb as you'd want it to be.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

I didn't even have the J of diamonds for that matter...making it an even easier fold.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - 2+2er in 3bet pot

This is so bad
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