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#71
10-16-2007, 02:19 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] whats to stop a team from after recieving a fair catch, going for a fake fair catch punt, then running for 10 yards. remember the other team has to be 10 yards away from LOS [/ QUOTE ] because it's not a "fair catch punt" it's a free kick, like a kick off or a safety kick. just like you can't "fake" a kick off you can't fake a fair catch kick. you COULD onside it though. it would be retarded but you could. [/ QUOTE ] So if you put the opening kickoff through the uprights do you get points? [/ QUOTE ] No, the fair catch kick is the only free kick (out of the three kinds of free kicks) that you can score points by putting the ball through the uprights. (Also, you can't kick from a tee since tees are not allowed for field goal attempts.) 
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#72
10-16-2007, 02:20 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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Not true, a few years ago a UNC defensive back made this play in a bowl game. Link It was actually an Auburn player look about 6:30 in the video its a pretty sick play. [/ QUOTE ] holy crap!! great find....what an incredibly athletic and aware play...
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#73
10-16-2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] whats to stop a team from after recieving a fair catch, going for a fake fair catch punt, then running for 10 yards. remember the other team has to be 10 yards away from LOS [/ QUOTE ] because it's not a "fair catch punt" it's a free kick, like a kick off or a safety kick. just like you can't "fake" a kick off you can't fake a fair catch kick. you COULD onside it though. it would be retarded but you could. [/ QUOTE ] So if you put the opening kickoff through the uprights do you get points? [/ QUOTE ] No, the fair catch kick is the only free kick (out of the three kinds of free kicks) that you can score points by putting the ball through the uprights. (Also, you can't kick from a tee since tees are not allowed for field goal attempts.) [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I didn't think so but I wasn't sure and I wasnt really aware of this free kick rule so I thought I might just be wrong.
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#74
10-16-2007, 02:32 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] whats to stop a team from after recieving a fair catch, going for a fake fair catch punt, then running for 10 yards. remember the other team has to be 10 yards away from LOS [/ QUOTE ] because it's not a "fair catch punt" it's a free kick, like a kick off or a safety kick. just like you can't "fake" a kick off you can't fake a fair catch kick. you COULD onside it though. it would be retarded but you could. [/ QUOTE ] So if you put the opening kickoff through the uprights do you get points? [/ QUOTE ] 1. Can't use a tee to score points (NFL). 2. Also, on Wikipedia it says that Field Goals can not be scored on Kickoffs or Free Kicks following a safety.
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#75
10-16-2007, 02:58 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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And as for the OP, I don't see why not, as long as they throw the ball backwards (so it is a lateral). [/ QUOTE ] No, I think this was answered just a few posts above yours by Bedreviter. Until he posted that I was sure you could, say in the throes of a defender, chuck the ball backwards out of bounds and stop the clock. It would be a pretty alert play, honestly, but maybe the reason we haven't seen it is because it is in fact against the rules. The false start the clock away loophole is pretty disturbing. I don't think a coach would ever try it though for fear of the backlash.
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#76
10-16-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
how bout this one:
team is out of timeouts, needs FG to tie on opposing teams 14 yd line. Freshman QB simply has to throw the ball out of bounds, or out of the end zone to stop the clock and set up the game tying FG attempt. amirite?
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#77
10-16-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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how bout this one: team is out of timeouts, needs FG to tie on opposing teams 14 yd line. Freshman QB simply has to throw the ball out of bounds, or out of the end zone to stop the clock and set up the game tying FG attempt. amirite? [/ QUOTE ] Or he could spike the ball.
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#78
10-16-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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[ QUOTE ] And as for the OP, I don't see why not, as long as they throw the ball backwards (so it is a lateral). [/ QUOTE ] No, I think this was answered just a few posts above yours by Bedreviter. Until he posted that I was sure you could, say in the throes of a defender, chuck the ball backwards out of bounds and stop the clock. It would be a pretty alert play, honestly, but maybe the reason we haven't seen it is because it is in fact against the rules. The false start the clock away loophole is pretty disturbing. I don't think a coach would ever try it though for fear of the backlash. [/ QUOTE ] Someone will eventually do it. Here comes a semi-related tangent: In Indiana, high school basketball is played without a shot clock. Lots of people here hate zone defense. If you haven't lived here this probably won't make sense to you, but just take my word for it. Old men will sometimes start fights at pickup games if someone tries to play zone. Every couple years some HS coach will decide that they are going to going stall rather than face a zone defense. They instruct their PG to hold the ball until the other team comes out of the zone defense. The opposing team never does so they just stand there for an entire quarter before taking the last shot. The process is repeated in quarters 2 and 3. In the 4th quarter, one team finds itself ahead by a score of like 6-2 or something. If the Zone team is on defense and down, they will come out of the zone because they have no choice. If the the anti-zone team is down and has the ball they are forced to try to attack the zone. Its pretty lame but it happens when ego maniacal coaches put themselves above the game. The false start loophole will eventually be similarly exploited.
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#79
10-16-2007, 03:33 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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[ QUOTE ] how bout this one: team is out of timeouts, needs FG to tie on opposing teams 14 yd line. Freshman QB simply has to throw the ball out of bounds, or out of the end zone to stop the clock and set up the game tying FG attempt. amirite? [/ QUOTE ] Or he could spike the ball. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] One more: What if a team is down by 2 points, and the running back breaks through the secondary and is in the clear for a TD with less than ten seconds left and no timeouts? He could just run out of bounds at the 5 and set up a chip shot FG, right? (If that other one was supposed to be a level, never mind)
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#80
10-16-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Could a reciever stop the clock by throwing the ball OOB?
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how bout this one: team is out of timeouts, needs FG to tie on opposing teams 14 yd line. Freshman QB simply has to throw the ball out of bounds, or out of the end zone to stop the clock and set up the game tying FG attempt. amirite? [/ QUOTE ] As long as he doesn't play for Cal that SHOULD work.
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