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Old 04-19-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush on paired board.... NL50

Wow, one of my hands with a good debate...
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:56 AM
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I'm sorry but this is just spew. A good player is not playing the river this way with ANY of those hands we beat and if he DID bet he's folding to a push. If you knew he was a donkey a push may be fine, but you don't.
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Old 04-20-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush on paired board.... NL50

I thought about pushing, but decided to flat call... Villian shows Ah9h.

Thanks all.
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Old 04-20-2007, 08:15 AM
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I'm sorry but this is just spew. A good player is not playing the river this way with ANY of those hands we beat and if he DID bet he's folding to a push. If you knew he was a donkey a push may be fine, but you don't.

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A. its better to assume that an unknown player at nl50 isn't good than to assume they are good

B. bad players make crying calls very often

C. over a small-mediumish sample this player looks pretty weak, and def. the type that won't fold to a river raise with AK

raistlinx, have you played nl50 on FT? I played some clearing a bonus when I didn't have much available on the site, the players are almost always bad, and not folding to near minraises even when they should
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:22 AM
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush on paired board.... NL50

I think you absolutely need to raise this flop. Knowing the results, you were going to go broke here but given his range, you want this pot to be as big as possible
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:38 PM
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I think you absolutely need to raise this flop. Knowing the results, you were going to go broke here but given his range, you want this pot to be as big as possible

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Ya 95% of the time I would. Maybe more like 99.99%....
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:51 PM
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I'm sorry but this is just spew. A good player is not playing the river this way with ANY of those hands we beat and if he DID bet he's folding to a push. If you knew he was a donkey a push may be fine, but you don't.

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A. its better to assume that an unknown player at nl50 isn't good than to assume they are good

B. bad players make crying calls very often

C. over a small-mediumish sample this player looks pretty weak, and def. the type that won't fold to a river raise with AK

raistlinx, have you played nl50 on FT? I played some clearing a bonus when I didn't have much available on the site, the players are almost always bad, and not folding to near minraises even when they should

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I play NL50 at FTP (althought I have been playing more at another site lately)

We disagree on 'A'. I'm not saying it's wrong, just how I play. It works for me to give them some credit before I mark them as a donkey.

As for C, I think that is coming close to putting him on a hand we want him to have.
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