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Old 08-17-2007, 07:50 PM
kerk kerk is offline
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Default How to play mraginal hand from the SB

THis is a hand i constantly have trouble with.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 (t5075)
MP1 (t2725)
MP2 (t765)
MP3 (t1250)
CO (t2505)
Button (t1990)
Hero (t4770)
BB (t1880)
UTG (t4255)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls t50, MP3 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ???

Its not worth raising is it? playing a marginal hand out of position. But if i limp in and an A comes on the flop how do i play?

completes, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t250) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100, UTG folds, MP2 calls t100.

Turn: (t550) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero ???
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:21 PM
kurtkatt kurtkatt is offline
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Default Re: How to play mraginal hand from the SB

bets 400, if u didnt notice u are now splitting vs any aces except aq,ak (both of which are quite unlikely due to pf action). further u probably got a chaser squeezed beetween u and positionbettor. if u arent comfortable playing these spots just fold pf.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:49 PM
ChipSpeak ChipSpeak is offline
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Default Re: How to play mraginal hand from the SB

What kurtkatt said.
Fold this flop. If your going to complete, play it for implied odds on 2 pair/fd/sd or better, long haul you will find these hands huge -EV if overplayed, especially calling.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:00 AM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: How to play mraginal hand from the SB

im not folding this i may bet turn to charge flush draw bc i think we are splitting
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:01 AM
JARID JARID is offline
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Default Re: How to play mraginal hand from the SB

kerk,

pf and flop are fine. MP3 bet of 100 means little. You're probably best here, but with players yet to act a call is good.

Turn card is ok for you(I actually think it kinda sucks since no one really has A9-AJ often here). Leading is good, but I dont mind a check/evaluate either.

For me, playing marginal hands oop is all about continually giving myself the chance to evaluate my standing in the hand w/out over committing myself to the pot.

This means that "charging draws" becomes a little less important than simply getting to showdown, or giving mysellf the chance to get away cheaply if all hell breaks loose. Hopefully, that makes sense.
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