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Old 09-24-2007, 12:19 AM
thing85 thing85 is offline
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Default 50 NL - AKo on flop

Villain is 17/17 over 36 hands, which isn't too helpful.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $152.45
BB: $60.30
UTG: $22.85
MP: $40.80
CO: $58.90
Hero (BTN): $49.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $6.25</font>, Hero calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $8.25</font>, Hero...?


These type of hands come up often but I also seem to feel lost when I don't hit. Do I 4bet PF? Raise the flop? Or just let it go? I didn't 4bet PF because I don't want the pot size to get out of control, but with a larger sample on this guy, I probably could've made a more confident move.

Help?
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

Fold.

You can 4bet pre-flop. I 4bet pre-flop most times OOP and sometimes IP.



Also if he 3bets a lot and always c-bets calling and floating or shoving this flop could be good.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

agree w. lego.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

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Fold.

You can 4bet pre-flop. I 4bet pre-flop most times OOP and sometimes IP.



Also if he 3bets a lot and always c-bets calling and floating or shoving this flop could be good.

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How big of a 4bet would you make PF? My flop play would be a little bit easier if I had more hands on this guy.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

17.5 pre sounds good
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

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Fold.

You can 4bet pre-flop. I 4bet pre-flop most times OOP and sometimes IP.



Also if he 3bets a lot and always c-bets calling and floating or shoving this flop could be good.

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How big of a 4bet would you make PF? My flop play would be a little bit easier if I had more hands on this guy.

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I vary it....but with AK I generally make it like 25-30. I want plenty of FE and I feel a raise this size may actually have more FE than pushing. Then if he pushes it's an easy call. If he just calls you, you don't put any more money in unless you hit a hand.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

25 is too big imo. i prefer like 17
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:02 AM
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25 is too big imo. i prefer like 17

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I like to raise a bit more cause I wanna really decrease the chance of just getting called and then seeing a flop with the pot being $35 and having like $42, $43 left in stack. By raiasing that bit more I feel like it generally ends up all-in pre-flop or he folds to the 4bet.


How bad do you think that really is?
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: 50 NL - AKo on flop

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I like to raise a bit more cause I wanna really decrease the chance of just getting called and then seeing a flop with the pot being $35 and having like $42, $43 left in stack.

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Then push preflop, which is my preference when 4betting.

OP: as played, just fold.
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