JJ OOP, ACK

LOwrestling2001 · #1 11-29-2007, 05:10 AM

Villain is 16/12/7 over 200 hands, pretty TAGgy, he hasn't gotten out of line, and has shown down good hands (and hasn't played too many, either). As played, should I have folded this turn? His flop/turn aggro was like 6/oo. I thought him capable of double barreling given his aggro factor, but I think by the river i can fold easily w/o any concerns.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($340.60)
SB ($70.55)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($134)
MP ($98)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $18, Hero calls $18.

River: ($56.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $44, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $56.50

Parsy · #2 11-29-2007, 05:18 AM

You've under repped your hand so i call in this spot

Irishman07 · #3 11-29-2007, 05:18 AM

As played I think it's fine. He's not triple barreling that often with air so a fold is certainly ok. I'd probably rather 3bet preflop though as my standard play, but I will call every once in a while.

LOwrestling2001 · #4 11-29-2007, 05:21 AM

If villain was raising lighter, I wouldve definitely been more inclined to 3bet preflop. He's already pretty tight, I felt, without history, a 3bet would only narrow his range to mostly hands that beat me.

djshawk · #5 11-29-2007, 05:38 AM

I think I'd bet/fold the turn. I'd hate to see a AKQ on the river.

Slider · #6 11-29-2007, 05:42 AM

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I think I'd bet/fold the turn. I'd hate to see a AKQ on the river.

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Doing that turns our hand into a bluff.. If he hits when he 2 barelled on the AKQ.. so be it. We're going to be somewhat unsure when he calls and if he raises, it sucks.

I'm calling river as well. Worse Tens are enough of his range that you can call.

djshawk · #7 11-29-2007, 05:48 AM

That sounds a bit contradictory. If worse tens are in his range then we aren't turning our hand into a bluff because we get value from them? Or is this wrong?

By just calling down we get value towned by sets, QQ+. By betting we get raised by sets, QQ+ and can fold. If he calls then I like a b/f river unless you think he can bluff raise worse.

bigbabyjesus · #8 11-29-2007, 05:20 AM

I would call the river. His agg is high (though I don't trust it much over 200 hands,) and we've shown a lot of weakness with 3 checks. He could be value betting a good T, also.

therockofgibraltar · #9 11-29-2007, 06:37 AM

I think this is marginal call but I will make it b/c of two reasons:

1) you have under repped your hand so he might be firing missed overs (at least in some cases)
2) he is aggro enough to be betting TP (not even TPTK).

Against a tight range: 33,99+,AT river call is neutral (need ~30, have ~30). Add some other TP hands (KT, QT), maybe ui AK sometimes, and it is a clear +ev.

I call.