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03-28-2007, 05:32 AM
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Re: Books with online poker content to be banned?
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1) This post was one of my early April Fool's Day posts 2) Nobody asked for a link 3) But some of your replies have made me think it really could happen... [/ QUOTE ] We can only hope and dream that some of these social conservative idiots in power would be stupid enough to try something like that. And Mo Better if they fought to implement it all the way to the Supreme Court. It would be crushed like a bug, and the excellent arguments against what has labeled one of the stupidest pieces of legislation in the history of congress would be plastered on every newspaper, blogsite and tv news show in the country. 
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#24
03-28-2007, 11:53 AM
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Re: Books with online poker content to be banned?
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I really don't think posting "jokes" of this nature is really appropriate in this forum. [/ QUOTE ] I posted seven yesterday in various forums. One was locked. The rest were allowed to run. Maybe someday when you become a mod you can crack down on this tomfoolery. But for now you are powerless. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#25
03-28-2007, 01:26 PM
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this is not the "exact same thing". this is very different, and clearly constitutional. writing or saying what you want is different then running a web site for profit. [/ QUOTE ] The Government can ask an ICS to remove *any* link to an online gaming site. There are no limitations related to the purpose of the link or the website containing it. It doesn't matter if the offending URL is in a New York Times editorial, a Wikipedia article, or even a right-wing hit list of illegal gaming sites. If these things aren't protected speech than I don't know what is. Plus most of us are not the New York Times and don't have much clout with our ISPs. The law is structured to make it easy for some Government lawyer to send a letter to a large hosting company (ICS) with a list of offending websites and links. Now the ICS could carefully edit out all the offending hyperlinks from its customers' web pages [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. Or it could simply take entire sites down until their owners can fix them. Or it may just cancel people's accounts and possibly not even bother to explain why. Probably it will do whatever is cheapest and least annoying because it has no reason to care. [ QUOTE ] yes the web site owner can have due process, he can file a lawsuit. [/ QUOTE ] I guess I'd have to ask a lawyer about this. Do I even have standing to sue the Government because they notified my ISP that my website contained an illegal link? The whole law is structured as if I was not a party to the action. I'm not even entitled to notice of what has been done and may actually not be able to find out. Finally, permafrost added: [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The owner of the web site is not even entitled to a hearing or any other due process. [/ QUOTE ] False. The ICS must be given a "notice" and an "opportunity" to appear as part of the process. [/ QUOTE ] The ICS is usually not the owner of the web site. This is not due process for the person whose speech is being censored.
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#26
03-28-2007, 03:41 PM
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Re: Books with online poker content to be banned?
these have all been banned previously, although few are currently, p.s. the us gov didnt technically bann the anarchy cookbook, but its much more difficult to come across now, as well as CAT Stevens,
A huge gray area of supplements has been banned...so has ephedrine, and pot, and tons of other crap that shouldnt be... A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner Blubber by Judy Blume Brave New World by Aldous Huxley Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson Canterbury Tales by Chaucer Carrie by Stephen King Catch-22 by Joseph Heller Christine by Stephen King Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau Cujo by Stephen King Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller Decameron by Boccaccio East of Eden by John Steinbeck Fallen Angels by Walter Myers Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes Forever by Judy Blume Grendel by John Champlin Gardner Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling Have to Go by Robert Munsch Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou Impressions edited by Jack Booth In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm Lord of the Flies by William Golding Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein Lysistrata by Aristophanes More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier My House by Nikki Giovanni My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara Night Chills by Dean Koontz Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez Ordinary People by Judith Guest Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz Separate Peace by John Knowles Silas Marner by George Eliot Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain The Bastard by John Jakes The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier The Color Purple by Alice Walker The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks The Living Bible by William C. Bower The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman The Pigman by Paul Zindel The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders The Shining by Stephen King The Witches by Roald Dahl The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
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#28
03-28-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: Books with online poker content to be banned?
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these have all been banned previously [/ QUOTE ] You're gonna have to define banned here. Some right wing religious whackjob getting harry potter removed from a school library is not the same thing as a book being banned in the US.
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