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Old 06-14-2006, 09:47 AM
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First, I would ask you to please define this word, "god", that you are using. And if you finish sometime before I die, then I'll give you my answer.

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Old 06-14-2006, 11:19 PM
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First, I would ask you to please define this word, "god", that you are using. And if you finish sometime before I die, then I'll give you my answer.

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You've obviously never tried to adequately define "god".

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Old 06-15-2006, 02:11 AM
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done?
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:11 AM
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done?

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Knows everything and leave things as they are??? He must be either incompetent or evil!
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:18 AM
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A succinct version of one of the strongest atheist arguments, imo. I was merely trying to provide a definition of what I mean by God, not to persuade anyone it is accurate. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:38 AM
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done?

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The nature of this creation (think birth v. painting) influences god's nature.

The nature of the universe (think infinite v indefinite) influences god's nature.

Also, your current definitions of omniscience and omnipotence are circular and unproductive.

Oh, and you neglected any discussion of how god interacts with his creation.

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Old 06-15-2006, 09:10 PM
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The nature of this creation (think birth v. painting) influences god's nature.

The nature of the universe (think infinite v indefinite) influences god's nature.

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I dont see why either of these mean he is ill-defined. The nature of the universe influences my nature, yet I am well defined.


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Also, your current definitions of omniscience and omnipotence are circular and unproductive.

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I didnt use either of these terms in my definition.

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Oh, and you neglected any discussion of how god interacts with his creation.

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You didnt ask me how god interacts with his creation, you asked me what I meant by god. If saying what I mean includes listing all of his properties and attributes then I have failed to define god. Similarly, I have failed to define any word at all.
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Old 06-16-2006, 02:23 PM
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Yes. I cant explain the world as I find it without assuming God exists.

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This, my friends, is why anyone has to ask the question.

Alternatively, I can't fathom a God with the world how I find it.
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Old 06-16-2006, 04:05 PM
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No. There is absolutely no rational reason for me to believe he exists and so I don't, for the same reason I don't belive that my computer is actually a leopard.

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Old 06-16-2006, 08:31 PM
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done?

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Knows everything and leave things as they are??? He must be either incompetent or evil!

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What would you prefer? The rapture?

I think you might call God both incompetent and evil, but much in the same way that children call their parents selfish for witholding sweets.

I have no idea why you think God is leaving things as they are. I would agree that the world still seems to have a collective morality of a six year old, but I think everyone would agree that things have changed during history.
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