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Re: Does God exist?
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First, I would ask you to please define this word, "god", that you are using. And if you finish sometime before I die, then I'll give you my answer. Scott [/ QUOTE ] cancer? |
#72
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Re: Does God exist?
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[ QUOTE ] First, I would ask you to please define this word, "god", that you are using. And if you finish sometime before I die, then I'll give you my answer. Scott [/ QUOTE ] cancer? [/ QUOTE ] You've obviously never tried to adequately define "god". Scott |
#73
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Re: Does God exist?
The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done?
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#74
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done? [/ QUOTE ] Knows everything and leave things as they are??? He must be either incompetent or evil! |
#75
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Re: Does God exist?
A succinct version of one of the strongest atheist arguments, imo. I was merely trying to provide a definition of what I mean by God, not to persuade anyone it is accurate. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#76
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Re: Does God exist?
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The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done? [/ QUOTE ] The nature of this creation (think birth v. painting) influences god's nature. The nature of the universe (think infinite v indefinite) influences god's nature. Also, your current definitions of omniscience and omnipotence are circular and unproductive. Oh, and you neglected any discussion of how god interacts with his creation. Scott |
#77
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The nature of this creation (think birth v. painting) influences god's nature. The nature of the universe (think infinite v indefinite) influences god's nature. [/ QUOTE ] I dont see why either of these mean he is ill-defined. The nature of the universe influences my nature, yet I am well defined. [ QUOTE ] Also, your current definitions of omniscience and omnipotence are circular and unproductive. [/ QUOTE ] I didnt use either of these terms in my definition. [ QUOTE ] Oh, and you neglected any discussion of how god interacts with his creation. Scott [/ QUOTE ] You didnt ask me how god interacts with his creation, you asked me what I meant by god. If saying what I mean includes listing all of his properties and attributes then I have failed to define god. Similarly, I have failed to define any word at all. |
#78
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Yes. I cant explain the world as I find it without assuming God exists. [/ QUOTE ] This, my friends, is why anyone has to ask the question. Alternatively, I can't fathom a God with the world how I find it. |
#79
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No. There is absolutely no rational reason for me to believe he exists and so I don't, for the same reason I don't belive that my computer is actually a leopard. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Does God exist?
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[ QUOTE ] The creator of the universe who knows everything that can be known and can do anything that can be done? [/ QUOTE ] Knows everything and leave things as they are??? He must be either incompetent or evil! [/ QUOTE ] What would you prefer? The rapture? I think you might call God both incompetent and evil, but much in the same way that children call their parents selfish for witholding sweets. I have no idea why you think God is leaving things as they are. I would agree that the world still seems to have a collective morality of a six year old, but I think everyone would agree that things have changed during history. |
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