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07-09-2006, 10:10 PM
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Re: H.R. 4411 - U.S. House consideration
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no.......they subpeona bank transactions.......big difference. [/ QUOTE ] You are wrong. I have represented many clients where tax returns were admitted into evidence. 
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#24
07-10-2006, 01:34 AM
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Re: H.R. 4411 - U.S. House consideration
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[ QUOTE ] So ... now that the dreaded day is upon us. What are the odds of this bill becoming law? Based on what I have read, it seems like the following probability of this passing is? Passing the house on Wednesday: near 100% Passing the Senate: 30%-50% if Kyl can't get companion legislation through unanimous consent? Much higher if he does. Does this sound reasonable?? [/ QUOTE ] Probably as reasonable a guess as any. I think the key in the Senate will be those delegations that represent B&M casinos (NV, NJ, CA, LA, and so on). Which makes the position of the B&M casinos crucial. It doesn't take much to stop legislation in the Senate. [/ QUOTE ] From what I've heard in other threads, the corporate B&Ms are supposedly against this bill and are willing to fight against it to some extent. FWIW, I think 30-50% is on the pessimistic side, but I really don't know.
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#26
07-10-2006, 06:30 AM
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Well then your [censored] lawyer for not getting it thrown out. Remind me never to put you on retainer. [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to assume this is your lame way of admitting that you're wrong, or at least, have no real basis for backing up your claims.
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#27
07-10-2006, 10:11 AM
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Not likely. [/ QUOTE ] What rock do you hide under? Anytime there is money to be had - legally or otherwise - congress is interested. But now that the interests of the WTO is brought up, wht is more likely is in order to enforce such a rediculous law and others like them (like taxing the internet); don't be too surprised when the government(s) say the only way to get access to the internet will be through them. First the law, then the excuse, then the take over. Then what of Nevada, Atlantic City, Wagon Burner Casinos, State Lottery; why aren't they outlawed as well?
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#28
07-10-2006, 11:35 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Not likely. [/ QUOTE ] What rock do you hide under? Anytime there is money to be had - legally or otherwise - congress is interested. [/ QUOTE ] Are there bad actors? Yes. Just as there are in any other line of work. Is your perception of Congress as a whole and money based on reality? No. It's highly unlikely that too many Members are going to risk jail time by accepting bribes from foreign companies to change their votes on Internet gambling bills. Despite what most people believe, "money" in politics tends to follow "philosophy" -- not the other way around. But I suppose my years of watching the system up close and personal for more than a couple of years doesn't account for much. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to delivering bags of money...
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#29
07-10-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: H.R. 4411 - U.S. House consideration
Up tomorrow (Tuesday) shortly after 10am est
Only one amendment was allowed and it eliminates all the exemptions that are listed in the bill (horseracing, etc) so it covers all forms of online gambling.
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#30
07-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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Up tomorrow (Tuesday) shortly after 10am est Only one amendment was allowed and it eliminates all the exemptions that are listed in the bill (horseracing, etc) so it covers all forms of online gambling. [/ QUOTE ] Berge, What kind of things should we be "rooting" for when watching the vote tomorrow? That this amendment helps to divide the hardcore religious conservative vote from the pragmatic centrist vote?
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