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Old 09-14-2007, 11:32 PM
QTip QTip is offline
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Default 400: What a Sweet Ending

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $402.90
BB: $272.60
UTG: $77.90
UTG+1: $363.85
QTip (MP1): $422.00
MP2: $382.00
MP3: $720.05
CO: $321.80
BTN: $901.20

Reads: <font color="blue">villian runs 15/12/1.3 over 162 hands</font>

Preflop: QTip is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">QTip raises to $16.00</font>, 4 folds, SB calls $14.00, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, QTip checks

Turn: ($36) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24.00</font>, QTip calls $24.00

River: ($84) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, QTip checks

Pot Size: $84.00 ($3 Rake)

SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Aces full of Nines) and WON (+$41.00)
QTip had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$40.00)
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

both players played bad?
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

how can you only lose 20bb here?
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

I really like how I played this hand. What would you suggest doing differently?

I don't think he played it well tho.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

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I really like how I played this hand. What would you suggest doing differently?

I don't think he played it well tho.

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being a little results oriented are we?
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

Was there a reason you checked the flop? I bet this flop w/air, so I have to bet it with KK, too. Flat calling the turn with the intention of getting some value on the river seems pretty reasonable to me, and that river is a check because you're not getting called by much that you beat here. I think you get more value by betting the flop (all pairs call you) and you're very rarely beaten, but the other guy played it HORRIBLY, so the way you played it saved your stack.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

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I really like how I played this hand. What would you suggest doing differently?

I don't think he played it well tho.

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being a little results oriented are we?

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No. I don't know why I'm getting one liners here. If someone would suggest another line, let's have it with your reasoning.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

Bet flop? Raise turn? You have no reason to belive you dont have the best hand here...
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

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I really like how I played this hand. What would you suggest doing differently?

I don't think he played it well tho.

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being a little results oriented are we?

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No. I don't know why I'm getting one liners here. If someone would suggest another line, let's have it with your reasoning.

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Not a one liner...I think you think you played it well because you lost less than anyone else would. That was my first instinct when I saw your comment. A better line would be to bet the flop. Therefore you are getting some value from small pair type hands and if you get raised you have to re-evaluate although it will be tough. I am a low limit player so I am used to basic play, but I think you were just trying to get a little too fancy at the same time he was.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: 400: What a Sweet Ending

Bet the flop because worse hands will call (or even raise). A 15/12 shouldn't show up with a 9 here (or AA for that matter, wtf?). His AF of 1.3 indicates he'll call with most pairs here. Would you c-bet this flop with air here? If you usually would, then you have to take value here.
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