11: Ugly spot with JJ

BarryLyndon · #1 05-15-2007, 11:00 PM

My image has been ass, I was short stacked, pushed with KJo, got called with A9. Also, I made a very loose call on a river (loose to them, actually, I think the call is fairly standard). All in raiser has been attactive with 2x BB raises from MP or late.

All things considered (or without even considering these things), call or fold?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2434524826: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (18440978), Table 2 - 60/120 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:24:34 ET - 2007/05/15
Seat 2: eklektos (640)
Seat 3: jammager (1,530)
Seat 4: Scribble (1,580)
Seat 7: BigMomma12 (4,365)
Seat 8: specialfx1 (1,035)
Seat 9: FIREDANCER33 (1,345)
eklektos posts the small blind of 60
jammager posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scribble [Jd Jh]
Scribble raises to 480
BigMomma12 folds
specialfx1 has 15 seconds left to act
specialfx1 calls 480
FIREDANCER33 raises to 1,345, and is all in
eklektos folds
jammager folds
Scribble has 15 seconds left to act

BadBeatsCrewDerk · #2 05-15-2007, 11:04 PM

You're flipping here at best. You have like 13BB, no need to go all in here.

citanul · #3 05-15-2007, 11:10 PM

Please put buyin information in the titles of your posts.

SquishyPeach · #4 05-15-2007, 11:47 PM

I think you call here all day...After your raise you no longer have 13BB now you have even less than 10...I also think the extra money in the pot makes this a call all day

BadBeatsCrewDerk · #5 05-15-2007, 11:58 PM

Oh, oops. I totally missed the fact he raised. I thought was facing a raise, call, and a push ooooooops. I think you should call now too, but why are you raising to 4x UTG with JJ at 60/120?

BarryLyndon · #6 05-16-2007, 12:01 AM

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Oh, oops. I totally missed the fact he raised. I thought was facing a raise, call, and a push ooooooops. I think you should call now too, but why are you raising to 4x UTG with JJ at 60/120?

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Because I had been pushing and been playing LAG, I thought raise to 480 would get looked by by A10 and an assortment of other hands I may be way ahead of given the flow of the game (over to 360). I could be over thinking that, however.

AMT · #7 05-16-2007, 12:05 AM

there is way too much in the pot for me to fold JJ...though id probably just open shove PF.

Kevin8423 · #8 05-16-2007, 02:26 AM

Shove this pf, and definitley call as played you already put 1/3 of your stack in there and you got an extra player in it as well.

Jago · #9 05-16-2007, 04:27 AM

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... just open shove PF.

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Shove this pf, and definitley call as played you already put 1/3 of your stack in there and you got an extra player in it as well.

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BarryLyndon · #10 05-16-2007, 10:30 AM

Isn't JJ a little too strong to simply shove PF, especially at a table that may simply smooth call with 55- 99 + KQ + A10, but would fold if I pushed? I'd be more willing to shove with 99, AK, 1010, maybe AQs here than with JJ. But, I'm not sure - why am I shoving here with JJ instead of raising so that if a call, I get the size of a pot, if a push, I simply can call anyway (which I did).