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Old 08-14-2007, 06:49 PM
yaumed yaumed is offline
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Default T3s at BB.

Do u call on the floop ?

Top pair poor kicker witch: backdoor draw,three of a kind draw,two pair drax ? (1,5 + 6 + 2 out no ?)

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (19 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Button calls, Hero folds, BB calls.

Final Pot: 22 BB
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 22 BB, between Button, BB and UTG+1.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by UTG+1 (22 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7s 7h (one pair, sevens).
UTG+1 has 9d 9s (three of a kind, nines).
Button has 9c Tc (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 22 BB. </font>
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:54 PM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

um, what is the question?
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

On this situation i must call or fold ?
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

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Top pair poor kicker witch: backdoor draw,three of a kind draw,two pair drax ? (1,5 + 6 + 2 out no ?)


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Your 6 is incorrect here if I understand it correctly -- you have 3 outs to hit two pair. So I put you at 6.5 non-discounted outs. I would then discount your outs somewhat(i.e. you may hit your draw and not be best), especially the T, but also the 3. Nevertheless, I think you have at least the 4 outs needed to call the flop getting 10:1. From there your play is standard.
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Old 08-14-2007, 06:57 PM
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um, what is the question?

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He states clearly in the first line if he should call the floop.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

Oh, sorry didn't see that.

Yes call, betting out is an option, but if you can c/r a late position bettor that is sweet too.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:08 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

Flop check-call is fine. (I hope you're not going to post too many hands at once - it's clear your first language is not English, but you should try to read the FAQ.)
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

What rules follow you for discounted yours outs ?
(one of the only books that I read it is small stake holdem, and i had only understand how discounted my outs
for one onvercard).

"it's clear your first language is not English"
I'm french ,i speak english so bad ?

"but you should try to read the FAQ.)"

ok i run there.
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Old 08-15-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

bet flop
check/call turn
c/f river
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: T3s at BB.

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What rules follow you for discounted yours outs ?


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You can take those from "Holdem on the come" by Dew Mason, very good book (except for two chapters).
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