JJ vs 2 opponents on low board

Radford999 · #1 10-09-2007, 07:58 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t820)
BB (t4230)
Radford999 (t4140)
UTG+1 (t2750)
MP1 (t2950)
MP2 (t5870)
MP3 (t340)
CO (t3040)
Button (t2760)

Preflop: Radford999 is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Radford999 raises to t70, UTG+1 calls t70, 1 fold, MP2 calls t70, 2 folds, Button calls t70, 2 folds.

Flop: (t310) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Radford999 bets t215, UTG+1 raises to t500, MP2 folds, Button calls t500, Radford999 calls t285.

Turn: (t1810) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Radford999 checks, UTG+1 bets t2180 (All-In), Button calls t2180, Radford999 ??????

Interesting hand. The question i have to ask myself now is should i have lead out on the turn? But UTG+1's near to minimum raise on the flop scared me a little, so did the button calling. So should i make a lead of about 1/2 the pot on the turn to see where my hand stands. If i get raised, then i can safely laydown my hand imo. Soon as UTG+1 pushes and the button calls, jacks just can't be any good anymore, right?

What do you think?

tomek322 · #2 10-09-2007, 08:36 PM

it's on of those hands when you fold, one idiot has A6 and the other has 88. When you call one has a set and the other guy has a straight.

I don't mind the way you played it, assuming you read atleast one of these guys as sane. What is the buy in? if it's a $1-$10 I think you could just 3 bet the flop.

Coz · #3 10-09-2007, 08:36 PM

Preflop is good. Do you have any reads? This is a tough situation, because you are an UTG raiser that got called by 3 people. You bet 2/3 of the pot on the flop and got raised by one player and called by another. UTG's range would be something like A6, 55, maybe 44, 77, 88, 22, 66, 33, and 99 or TT. Button's range is tighter, his call suggests to me that he is drawing, he probably has IMO something like ATs, AJs, AQs, KJs, KQs etc... There are alot of cards on the turn that is going to hurt us, any club, and any overcard, plus if we call and a 7 hits the turn we don't know whther our opponent hit a set or not. Therefore, I think we need to make a decision on the flop. I would fold, we could be behind to a set, and we have no FE against two overs and a flush draw, which we are also behind too. I think we can wait for a better spot. As played I like check folding the turn, check to see what our opponents do, if they go crazy like they did above, I would probably fold and expect to see a set up against two overs and a flush draw alot.