$50 NLTRN, 2nd pair + OESD on turn facing psb donkbet

[Kalledrengen]

I think c-betting a bit less on drawy boards is alright.

I see myself calling here many times, however against an unknown villain I would probably fold because I do not expect great implied odds if I hit my straight when there is 4 to a straight on the board.
He is out of posistion though so that adds a bit to the chance of having good implied odds if he is gonna try take down the pot even if the 4'th card comes.

[mb6tour]

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I think c-betting a bit less on drawy boards is alright.

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[how_can_losing?]

Yeah, I'm not sure what he meant by that, but I'm guessing he means it's ok to bet 80/120 consistently instead of betting more on drawy boards.

Anyway, results. I pushed, villain thought for a second and called with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and I held.

The instant he called I thought that pushing was a mistake, and then I saw his hand and was pretty surprised.

The reason I posted is because after pokerstoving a reasonable range for a non-maniac villain, it seems obvious that folding the turn is best. I won this hand, and based on his play in hand 1, I thought there was a chance I was ahead on the turn. But in this spot I think folding is the clear play against most villains, right?

[sonneti]

I would fold the turn here because I think bets like these indicate that villans hand has usually improved. I would think it may be something like Kxh, K5-KTx, 2 pair or maybe a fancy heart flush draw. Normally I wouldnt consider the backdoor flush draw.

Also it's very early in the tournament against an unknown villan so I think I'd save my chips & try getting a proper read on him.

[how_can_losing?]

sonneti,

Yeah, I think you're right. My only read was his instapot river bet in hand 1, and his very quick pot bet on the turn in hand 2. For some reason I didn't think he had it, and I pushed. I think I was pretty lucky to be right, and that in most cases folding is by far better.

[Kalledrengen]

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I think c-betting a bit less on drawy boards is alright.

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Whooops! That was indeed a mistake, ment bigger obviously =]

[how_can_losing?]

Kalledrengen,

That makes more sense. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]